Share Price in relation to Dispute

[dudius]

Given that the market is said to be "forward thinking", are the recent gains in the share price* a sign that there's confidence that the CWU will be defeated, or is it the usual Xmas run-up?





*full disclosure: I have skin in the game, as I've been shorting the stock and have so far lost hundreds

[scoobydo79]

I’m thinking imminent deal made or a takeover coming

[mjd24]

Given that the market is said to be "forward thinking", are the recent gains in the share price* a sign that there's confidence that the CWU will be defeated, or is it the usual Xmas run-up?





*full disclosure: I have skin in the game, as I've been shorting the stock and have so far lost hundreds

Just out of curiosity- how does one go about shorting a stock? I know what shorting is (sort of) but not sure how exactly to go about it (not that i want to, just interested).

[chickenwittle]

I’m thinking imminent deal made or a takeover coming

I think a deal is far from imminent the way the CWU are ramping things up again.

[dudius]

Just out of curiosity- how does one go about shorting a stock? I know what shorting is (sort of) but not sure how exactly to go about it (not that i want to, just interested).

Any of the new broker apps will do it (I personally use eToro). Each stock has a "buy" and "sell" button. The "buy" is obvious, but you don't need to own a stock in order to "sell".

"Sell" simply means to short... It's a casino; you're betting on gains or losses. Red or black.

[walthmstowman]

I’m thinking imminent deal made or a takeover coming

More likely a takeover

[rambo1]

Given that the market is said to be "forward thinking", are the recent gains in the share price* a sign that there's confidence that the CWU will be defeated, or is it the usual Xmas run-up?


Thinking the market is pricing in a takeover possibility and the resultant high £3- low £4 valuation that kretinsky would legally be obligated to offer shareholders.
Ps, how have you lost hundreds on a share that had dropped sooo much this yr?


*full disclosure: I have skin in the game, as I've been shorting the stock and have so far lost hundreds

[world class male]

any potential majority stakeholder would want any union crushed before sticking the knife in, this is what's happening here, and they're winning
the cwu are so 1 dimensional and totally ignore any ideas of future IA whilst claiming to hold the key to innovate ideas to which they won't disclose to what they are even to it's own members that would take the company forward
I've seen our area rep more times in the last 3 weeks than in then previous 3 years, why? because their cushy numbers are up if/when this goes pear shaped, believe me, union membership will be at 50% at best in 2 years
rm are already farming out expensive alternatives to deliver stuff aimed for us to do, short term pain for long term gain is their goal too

[dudius]

Ps, how have you lost hundreds on a share that had dropped sooo much this yr?


*full disclosure: I have skin in the game, as I've been shorting the stock and have so far lost hundreds

Well, being the financial genius I am, I only started shorting once the strikes started. I was convinced they'd plummet (the stock prices). Add in a bit of leverage, and here we are

[TopperGas]

Just out of curiosity- how does one go about shorting a stock? I know what shorting is (sort of) but not sure how exactly to go about it (not that i want to, just interested).

Any of the new broker apps will do it (I personally use eToro). Each stock has a "buy" and "sell" button. The "buy" is obvious, but you don't need to own a stock in order to "sell".

"Sell" simply means to short... It's a casino; you're betting on gains or losses. Red or black.

Not sure if your just being a WUM or haven't a clue what you're talking about, as this is the official explanation:

"What is short selling? Short selling is when a trader borrows shares from a broker and immediately sells them with the expectation that the stock price will fall shortly after. If it does, the trader can buy the shares back at the lower price, return them to the brokerage and keep the difference as profit.

[rambo1]

Ps, how have you lost hundreds on a share that had dropped sooo much this yr?


*full disclosure: I have skin in the game, as I've been shorting the stock and have so far lost hundreds

Well, being the financial genius I am, I only started shorting once the strikes started. I was convinced they'd plummet (the stock prices). Add in a bit of leverage, and here we are

D'oh. I see govt has rejected proposed cut to the USO so there may be hope for you to get your money back. How long you got before they call it in?

[TopperGas]

I’m thinking imminent deal made or a takeover coming

More likely a takeover

If Vesa was buying up shares wouldn't they now be near the 30% ownership mark and so forced to make a takeover offer? Perhaps ST is sending signals to the market CWU are coming around to his way of thinking, it certainly seemed that way from last night's CWU video.

[wandle]

Ps, how have you lost hundreds on a share that had dropped sooo much this yr?


*full disclosure: I have skin in the game, as I've been shorting the stock and have so far lost hundreds

Well, being the financial genius I am, I only started shorting once the strikes started. I was convinced they'd plummet (the stock prices). Add in a bit of leverage, and here we are

Gambling in a market you don’t understand is a recipe for burnt fingers.
Somebody outside of the situation, if asked, ‘what do you think would happen today to the share price of a company, if they said there’s no money for a dividend, we’re at war with our own employees, and those workers announced new strike dates after the market closed yesterday?’
I guarantee their answer would be ‘bloody hell, they’d go down, maybe significantly’
The reality?

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[dudius]

Gambling in a market you don’t understand is a recipe for burnt fingers.
Somebody outside of the situation, if asked, ‘what do you think would happen today to the share price of a company, if they said there’s no money for a dividend, we’re at war with our own employees, and those workers announced new strike dates after the market closed yesterday?’
I guarantee their answer would be ‘bloody hell, they’d go down, maybe significantly’
The reality?
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Exactly. It always seems to go the exact opposite way that it logically should. Hence the original question really.

[dudius]

Not sure if your just being a WUM or haven't a clue what you're talking about, as this is the official explanation:

"What is short selling? Short selling is when a trader borrows shares from a broker and immediately sells them with the expectation that the stock price will fall shortly after. If it does, the trader can buy the shares back at the lower price, return them to the brokerage and keep the difference as profit.

That's exactly correct. I was explaining how it works through an app, not the stock market in general. But thanks anyway.