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Strike notification: CWU-We have today served legal notice on Royal Mail Group for national strike action on Thursday 24th November and Friday 25th Nov

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Strike notification: CWU-We have today served legal notice on Royal Mail Group for national strike action on Thursday 24th November and Friday 25th Nov

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Hope it’s going in today Cwu
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What time?
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I thought the 2 , 48 hour stoppage announcements were already made?
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derricksmyth wrote:
10 Nov 2022, 15:22
I thought the 2 , 48 hour stoppage announcements were already made?
The announcements were made to us but the formal legal notification to RM has to take place today - 14 days before the proposed action.
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Notice has been served :Very Happy
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We have today served legal notice on Royal Mail Group for national strike action on Thursday 24th November and Friday 25th November.
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Yep on Cwu twitter.
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Good :thumbup
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Dave & Co mentioned in the last member meeting that even if an agreement has been made, they still need to ballot members on whether we agree or not. So strikes will still be on regardless.

A lot more red tape but the right decision.
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Need to stick to these dates, I’d booked hotel in Blackpool for this weekend until the strike was cancelled :evil/mad
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Duesouth wrote:
10 Nov 2022, 16:23
Dave & Co mentioned in the last member meeting that even if an agreement has been made, they still need to ballot members on whether we agree or not. So strikes will still be on regardless.

A lot more red tape but the right decision.
If the black friday strikes were on regardless then whats the incentive for RM to make an agreement? The whole point of them is to force RM's hand to an extent - so if the plan is for them to still go ahead even if we were being balloted on a provisional agreement then that incentive for RM to come to an agreement isnt there.
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The notification has been given.
The strikes can be called off any time in the next 13 days.
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Acca Dacca wrote:
10 Nov 2022, 16:32
Duesouth wrote:
10 Nov 2022, 16:23
Dave & Co mentioned in the last member meeting that even if an agreement has been made, they still need to ballot members on whether we agree or not. So strikes will still be on regardless.

A lot more red tape but the right decision.
If the black friday strikes were on regardless then whats the incentive for RM to make an agreement? The whole point of them is to force RM's hand to an extent - so if the plan is for them to still go ahead even if we were being balloted on a provisional agreement then that incentive for RM to come to an agreement isnt there.
When you have a tactical weapon, it is no weapon at all unless the other side truly believes you will deploy it. If the dual pressure of half-year financial results (due a week today on the 17th) and a looming 48-hour stoppage doesn’t force RM’s hand, nothing will.
If a deal is put out to a vote before the 24th, we can always cancel the strike at short notice, preferably giving notice of a fresh 48-hour stoppage, to commence 2 days after the ballot closes (to cover the possibility of a ‘no’ vote)
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Duesouth wrote:
10 Nov 2022, 16:23
So strikes will still be on regardless.
The strikes will still be on unless they are called off.
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wandle wrote:
10 Nov 2022, 16:56
Acca Dacca wrote:
10 Nov 2022, 16:32
Duesouth wrote:
10 Nov 2022, 16:23
Dave & Co mentioned in the last member meeting that even if an agreement has been made, they still need to ballot members on whether we agree or not. So strikes will still be on regardless.

A lot more red tape but the right decision.
If the black friday strikes were on regardless then whats the incentive for RM to make an agreement? The whole point of them is to force RM's hand to an extent - so if the plan is for them to still go ahead even if we were being balloted on a provisional agreement then that incentive for RM to come to an agreement isnt there.
When you have a tactical weapon, it is no weapon at all unless the other side truly believes you will deploy it. If the dual pressure of half-year financial results (due a week today on the 17th) and a looming 48-hour stoppage doesn’t force RM’s hand, nothing will.
If a deal is put out to a vote before the 24th, we can always cancel the strike at short notice, preferably giving notice of a fresh 48-hour stoppage, to commence 2 days after the ballot closes (to cover the possibility of a ‘no’ vote)
What im responding to though is the notion that the strikes will be on regardless if we have an agreement we are being balloted on or not

If RM know the strikes are going ahead even if they come to an agreement in the room that is being put to the members then the incentive of getting a an agreement to stop Black Friday strikes going ahead isnt there

So what im saying is, keeping the strikes going ahead even if we are at the stage of being balloted means less likely RM would come to an agreement

The likelihood is, the strikes would be called off if we got to the stage of going to the membership I would imagine

The problem with that is, if the membership vote to reject the deal then we have lost our strongest weapon as you put it unless the agreement and ballot could be finalised before the 24th which is very unlikely

In short;

This is all being done too late
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