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hans solo
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35hr week

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i take it the reduction to 35 hr week in the last agreement has been vetoed by RM now
where does this leave us regards pay comparisons between ft and pt staff
in the agreement pt staff were given extra pay increase to boost their pay as ft staff got reduction to 37 hrs
with no reduction to 35 hrs for ft staff how does pay work for pt staff who move up to 37 hrs ??
they will be on a higher rate of pay
also with pt staff on higher rate this must impact comparisons between o-time rates as well
when pt staff work same hours as ft then do overtime there pay rate will be higher than full time
doesnt sound right to me
especially when pt in ours start early shifts from 5am ot until their shifts start and do later shifts as well

and dont get me started on professional drivers who when finishing their own shift go out and do deliveries at their higher rate of pay
compared to your opg who covering same work is paid a lot less
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Re: 35hr week

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hans solo wrote:
31 Oct 2022, 08:32
i take it the reduction to 35 hr week in the last agreement has been vetoed by RM now
where does this leave us regards pay comparisons between ft and pt staff
in the agreement pt staff were given extra pay increase to boost their pay as ft staff got reduction to 37 hrs
with no reduction to 35 hrs for ft staff how does pay work for pt staff who move up to 37 hrs ??
they will be on a higher rate of pay
also with pt staff on higher rate this must impact comparisons between o-time rates as well
when pt staff work same hours as ft then do overtime there pay rate will be higher than full time
doesnt sound right to me
especially when pt in ours start early shifts from 5am ot until their shifts start and do later shifts as well

and dont get me started on professional drivers who when finishing their own shift go out and do deliveries at their higher rate of pay
compared to your opg who covering same work is paid a lot less
35 hour week really means nothing if annualised hours are the future could easily be on 48+ hours over the winter and then bring in student agency workers over the major holidays on 6 quid an hour while we sit at home
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Part timers are paid the same hourly rate as full timers
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Re: 35hr week

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heraldmoth wrote:
31 Oct 2022, 10:09
hans solo wrote:
31 Oct 2022, 08:32
i take it the reduction to 35 hr week in the last agreement has been vetoed by RM now
where does this leave us regards pay comparisons between ft and pt staff
in the agreement pt staff were given extra pay increase to boost their pay as ft staff got reduction to 37 hrs
with no reduction to 35 hrs for ft staff how does pay work for pt staff who move up to 37 hrs ??
they will be on a higher rate of pay
also with pt staff on higher rate this must impact comparisons between o-time rates as well
when pt staff work same hours as ft then do overtime there pay rate will be higher than full time
doesnt sound right to me
especially when pt in ours start early shifts from 5am ot until their shifts start and do later shifts as well

and dont get me started on professional drivers who when finishing their own shift go out and do deliveries at their higher rate of pay
compared to your opg who covering same work is paid a lot less
35 hour week really means nothing if annualised hours are the future could easily be on 48+ hours over the winter and then bring in student agency workers over the major holidays on 6 quid an hour while we sit at home
No one on this planet is going to work for £6 an hour
Could earn more doing a paper run
Would also get more working at mcds
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Of course they do, they do it with their own cars at dominos on the student rate £6.80 odd
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heraldmoth
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So like I said makes perfect sense to flog us over the winter then recoup all that OT during the summer with casuals under the age of 21
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hans solo wrote:
31 Oct 2022, 08:32

in the agreement pt staff were given extra pay increase to boost their pay as ft staff got reduction to 37 hrs
with no reduction to 35 hrs for ft staff how does pay work for pt staff who move up to 37 hrs ??
they will be on a higher rate of pay
also with pt staff on higher rate this must impact comparisons between o-time rates as well
when pt staff work same hours as ft then do overtime there pay rate will be higher than full time
doesnt sound right to me
It doesn't sound right because it isn't right.
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.
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heraldmoth wrote:
31 Oct 2022, 12:07
So like I said makes perfect sense to flog us over the winter then recoup all that OT during the summer with casuals under the age of 21
I’m seeing what a good job casuals are doing at our place taking 9 hours to do a round when it should take 3.30 an delivering 8 parcels an hour in the van
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my 19 yr old daughter works in mcdonalds £11 an hour.
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Trouble is nobody in RM cares whether you do a good job or not. Maybe your regular customers but management and above couldn't care less as long as the tracked are done.
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postieblueshirt wrote:
31 Oct 2022, 14:49
my 19 yr old daughter works in mcdonalds £11 an hour.
Mines works in mcds also she’s on more than £11
23 yr old
f***ing mcds will overtake us shortly
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yep and you get discount on grub with rm free redirection :nana
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Re: 35hr week

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hans solo wrote:
31 Oct 2022, 08:32

where does this leave us regards pay comparisons between ft and pt staff
in the agreement pt staff were given extra pay increase to boost their pay as ft staff got reduction to 37 hrs
with no reduction to 35 hrs for ft staff how does pay work for pt staff who move up to 37 hrs ??
they will be on a higher rate of pay
also with pt staff on higher rate this must impact comparisons between o-time rates as well
when pt staff work same hours as ft then do overtime there pay rate will be higher than full time
doesnt sound right to me
Part timers got a pay rise to the same rate of pay that full timers are on.

ie. Full time rate of pay for 37 hours is the same as it was for 38. You dropped from 38 hours to 37 with no loss of pay, thereby increasing you hourly rate by something like 2.5%, part timers were given a similar increase at the same time. They are not on a higher rate of pay, they are on the same rate
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Re: 35hr week

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pinstripe wrote:
01 Nov 2022, 04:33
hans solo wrote:
31 Oct 2022, 08:32

where does this leave us regards pay comparisons between ft and pt staff
in the agreement pt staff were given extra pay increase to boost their pay as ft staff got reduction to 37 hrs
with no reduction to 35 hrs for ft staff how does pay work for pt staff who move up to 37 hrs ??
they will be on a higher rate of pay
also with pt staff on higher rate this must impact comparisons between o-time rates as well
when pt staff work same hours as ft then do overtime there pay rate will be higher than full time
doesnt sound right to me
Part timers got a pay rise to the same rate of pay that full timers are on.

ie. Full time rate of pay for 37 hours is the same as it was for 38. You dropped from 38 hours to 37 with no loss of pay, thereby increasing you hourly rate by something like 2.5%, part timers were given a similar increase at the same time. They are not on a higher rate of pay, they are on the same rate
Am I right in thinking that those on 35 hr contracts are on a lower rate than those on 37 hrs? We have 2 in our office, and it my belief they wont catch up on hourly rate until we get down to 35hrs.