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Martin Walsh
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Royal Mail last week instructed their lawyers to threaten to take the CWU to the High Court seeking a Judge to award an interim injunction. If Royal Mail were successful in their legal challenge it would have meant that the union could not take any further strike action for up to 6 weeks depending on the decision of a full court hearing. We could even have lost both ballots at the full hearing.

The CWU were not prepared to risk the strike mandate you gave us.

Therefore last Friday the Postal Executive agreed that we would serve notice of a further 2 x 24 hours action on Saturday 12th and Monday 14th November. This will be everyone out together . This was our backstop if Royal Mail were going to use legal means to stop the 2 bouts of functional action we had already announced.

Whilst we understand there will be some frustration over the standing down of the action on 2nd ,3rd and 4th N and 8,9 and 10th November. We still have strike action on 12th and 14th November.

The Postal Executive are meeting on Tuesday to agree further dates for strike action from 15th November up to Christmas Eve.

Ask yourselfs this if the strikes were not working why have Royal Mail reverted to using the anti trade union laws to stop our strikes.

Please don’t turn inwards. You have all been hero’s and stalwarts thus far in fighting for your terms and conditions and a decent pay rise.

It has never been more vital that you continue with the fight. Remember the stakes could not be higher.

Remember the CWU are the only ones who are opposing the following :

Compulsory redundancies, Your work and you being replaced by owner drivers , agency and new employees on worse terms and conditions. Compulsory Sundays , All Deliveries starting no earlier than 08:00 and all innovative duty patterns removed , the increasing use of agency in RDCs and mail centres, the reduction in collections, annualised hours including no finishing times, Statuary sick pay for any absence other than your first absence per year. ( SSP is £98 per week ) and unacceptable and unworkable revisions.

So please keep the faith. There is only one fight and that is with Royal Mail.

Stay strong and Stay proud and we will win.

A statement by the London Divisional Committee
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Need to hit them hard at the right time.
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so the 12th and the 14th are still strike days then ? and the 16th - 25th - 28th Nov and the 2nd Dec are NOT strike days now ? give us a clue :arrrghhh
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Either the union made a big mistake or rolling functional strikes are impossible

Which is it?

I don’t see any acknowledgement that the notice wasn’t served legally correct so if you feel the union served it as they should have does that mean that rolling strikes are impossible?
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Work to time the challenge was against the functional notices. So we will not meet on Tuesday to agree a further program of action. Remember we only have to give 14 days legal notice to Royal Mail.

We will be announcing action in the weeks you stated but it will not be functional. Apart from Cyber Monday all the action we announced previously was functional so we will be agreeing what replaces this and what we announce in December.
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worktotime wrote:
30 Oct 2022, 17:55
so the 12th and the 14th are still strike days then ? and the 16th - 25th - 28th Nov and the 2nd Dec are NOT strike days now ? give us a clue :arrrghhh
12th
14th
28th

All out
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Acca I think the fact that the CWU are not going forward with further functional action answers your question.
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Martin Walsh wrote:
30 Oct 2022, 18:03
Acca I think the fact that the CWU are not going forward with further functional action answers your question.
Ok thank you so our only options are all out strikes either one day a week or more

Part of the reason the union said the rolling strikes were announced was so the members only lose one days pay a week whilst having three days of action so either we are now going to have to continue with one day all our strikes or strike more days in the week. I can survive striking more than one day a week but I worry others won’t

I think they are coping with the one day strikes more easily than I’d hoped personally so was hopeful the rolling strikes would do the trick - so quite despondent now
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Clappedoutpostie wrote:
30 Oct 2022, 18:03
worktotime wrote:
30 Oct 2022, 17:55
so the 12th and the 14th are still strike days then ? and the 16th - 25th - 28th Nov and the 2nd Dec are NOT strike days now ? give us a clue :arrrghhh
12th
14th
28th

All out
so not the 25th ? , but thanks for your reply as i have asked this to pec members to give us a clue and not got any answer , but that doesnt surprise me after todays announcement . :arrrghhh
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So, are we now not on strike on Friday this week? It's all very confusing?
Did anyone see the bit in the Telegraph where simple Si says all posties will lose £2k if all strikes go ahead! He can't even do maths, mind you it goes on to say that the average, I stress, AVERAGE , postie with overtime and allowances, earns £30k a yr! Really!!! He really is out of touch and clueless.
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Martin Walsh wrote:
30 Oct 2022, 18:02
Work to time the challenge was against the functional notices. So we will not meet on Tuesday to agree a further program of action. Remember we only have to give 14 days legal notice to Royal Mail.

We will be announcing action in the weeks you stated but it will not be functional. Apart from Cyber Monday all the action we announced previously was functional so we will be agreeing what replaces this and what we announce in December.
why not cyber Monday ? i give up :arrrghhh
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I've heard North West and London were the only ones to oppose functional strikes? They are a nightmare for Network.
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worktotime wrote:
30 Oct 2022, 18:19
Martin Walsh wrote:
30 Oct 2022, 18:02
Work to time the challenge was against the functional notices. So we will not meet on Tuesday to agree a further program of action. Remember we only have to give 14 days legal notice to Royal Mail.

We will be announcing action in the weeks you stated but it will not be functional. Apart from Cyber Monday all the action we announced previously was functional so we will be agreeing what replaces this and what we announce in December.
why not cyber Monday ? i give up :arrrghhh
we ARE out cyber monday.
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sweepster70 wrote:
30 Oct 2022, 18:20
I've heard North West and London were the only ones to oppose functional strikes? They are a nightmare for Network.
apparently with RMs imposed overtime ban, there was a failure of 15000 yorks in the North West area. good on them.
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Without rolling strikes i dont fancy our chances of winning this dispute