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USO linked to pay rise

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Weetrogg2
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USO linked to pay rise

Post by Weetrogg2 »

Apparently the leverage the executive seems to think they have over EP group is the “USO reform”

If the pay rise is linked to the successful implementation of the USO reform then we will not be getting any rise this year.

Members need a pay rise but it seems the executive want to rip apart major parts of the last agreement.( CWU recommended deal) Admirable but naive at best and just plain stupid at worst ( I think the latter)

The USO reforms in their current guise will not work and will not deliver any meaningful benefits for the business, customer or members but worrying it seems for the exec it’s the only thing that matters.

Unfortunately it seems that the CWU are like the governments over the last few years,ie you think there’s no way the new leadership can be as bad as the previous lot but they turn out to be even worse.

For any member or union official who thinks we have any real leverage or might suggest a ballot for strikes, I’ve got a couple of unicorns and a tin of magic beans for sale. I’m coming to the conclusion that there is no situation that the CWU could not make worse.😞😞😞
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Re: USO linked to pay rise

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Here we go again 👊👊
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Re: USO linked to pay rise

Post by chickenwittle »

Weetrogg2 wrote:
23 May 2025, 23:22
Apparently the leverage the executive seems to think they have over EP group is the “USO reform”

If the pay rise is linked to the successful implementation of the USO reform then we will not be getting any rise this year.

Members need a pay rise but it seems the executive want to rip apart major parts of the last agreement.( CWU recommended deal) Admirable but naive at best and just plain stupid at worst ( I think the latter)

The USO reforms in their current guise will not work and will not deliver any meaningful benefits for the business, customer or members but worrying it seems for the exec it’s the only thing that matters.

Unfortunately it seems that the CWU are like the governments over the last few years,ie you think there’s no way the new leadership can be as bad as the previous lot but they turn out to be even worse.

For any member or union official who thinks we have any real leverage or might suggest a ballot for strikes, I’ve got a couple of unicorns and a tin of magic beans for sale. I’m coming to the conclusion that there is no situation that the CWU could not make worse.😞😞😞
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Sean06
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Re: USO linked to pay rise

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On what basis are you posting rumours or are you in the know :hmmmm
tramssirhc
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Re: USO linked to pay rise

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Weetrogg2 wrote:
23 May 2025, 23:22
Apparently the leverage the executive seems to think they have over EP group is the “USO reform”

If the pay rise is linked to the successful implementation of the USO reform then we will not be getting any rise this year.

Members need a pay rise but it seems the executive want to rip apart major parts of the last agreement.( CWU recommended deal) Admirable but naive at best and just plain stupid at worst ( I think the latter)

The USO reforms in their current guise will not work and will not deliver any meaningful benefits for the business, customer or members but worrying it seems for the exec it’s the only thing that matters.

Unfortunately it seems that the CWU are like the governments over the last few years,ie you think there’s no way the new leadership can be as bad as the previous lot but they turn out to be even worse.

For any member or union official who thinks we have any real leverage or might suggest a ballot for strikes, I’ve got a couple of unicorns and a tin of magic beans for sale. I’m coming to the conclusion that there is no situation that the CWU could not make worse.😞😞😞
There is no leverage. The CWU is a partner in the tripartite attack on workers. As partnerships go the CWU is simply begging at the table for crumbs. Martin is reactionary, simply chasing events as they happen, always steps behind. A pay rise does not have to be linked to any reforms. This is a multi billion pound industry. The CWU is being used to quieten workers and their demands down.

Martin's profit driven delivery method is already in trouble. It cannot work unless, as Martin said, everything is right. Correcting the legacy of years of things not being right and starting again is a massive drain on profits. Workers know what happens next because they've experienced it time and time again. Martin's delivery method is put in and workers have to pick up the pieces. Thats what happened in 2010 and it was never put right.
"The leadership will sabotage the fight and only make the slightest move under fear of powerful working class action" - Des Warren
Weetrogg2
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Re: USO linked to pay rise

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Sean06 wrote:
24 May 2025, 13:44
On what basis are you posting rumours or are you in the know :hmmmm
It was basically what was said at the 2 day briefing. Most of the reps from the trial areas said the USO reforms are unworkable. A lot of reps/officials left the briefing downhearted.

I personally have no faith or trust in the executive to get a fair deal- this is my personal opinion.
Weetrogg2
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Re: USO linked to pay rise

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Again my personal opinion is we should be negotiating a straight inflation or above pay rise for 1 year with no strings attached but that’s not what the executive are trying for
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Of course we should. Why are there always strings attached? The company hasn't constrained itself to increasing postage rates according to inflation. The stamp prices have gone through the roof. So why are the workers not even worth a one year deal matching inflation?
tramssirhc
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Re: USO linked to pay rise

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Weetrogg2 wrote:
24 May 2025, 17:37
Sean06 wrote:
24 May 2025, 13:44
On what basis are you posting rumours or are you in the know :hmmmm
It was basically what was said at the 2 day briefing. Most of the reps from the trial areas said the USO reforms are unworkable. A lot of reps/officials left the briefing downhearted.

I personally have no faith or trust in the executive to get a fair deal- this is my personal opinion.
If the basics aren't right it's never going to work. We all know it. The CWU are simply ignoring us and saying we're the problem.
"The leadership will sabotage the fight and only make the slightest move under fear of powerful working class action" - Des Warren
Sean06
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Re: USO linked to pay rise

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Weetrogg2 wrote:
24 May 2025, 17:37
Sean06 wrote:
24 May 2025, 13:44
On what basis are you posting rumours or are you in the know :hmmmm
It was basically what was said at the 2 day briefing. Most of the reps from the trial areas said the USO reforms are unworkable. A lot of reps/officials left the briefing downhearted.

I personally have no faith or trust in the executive to get a fair deal- this is my personal opinion.
Were did you hear this trials are unworkable.?
Sean06
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Re: USO linked to pay rise

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tramssirhc wrote:
24 May 2025, 20:53
Weetrogg2 wrote:
24 May 2025, 17:37
Sean06 wrote:
24 May 2025, 13:44
On what basis are you posting rumours or are you in the know :hmmmm
It was basically what was said at the 2 day briefing. Most of the reps from the trial areas said the USO reforms are unworkable. A lot of reps/officials left the briefing downhearted.

I personally have no faith or trust in the executive to get a fair deal- this is my personal opinion.
If the basics aren't right it's never going to work. We all know it. The CWU are simply ignoring us and saying we're the problem.
Time for the pwrfc to step up then an get it all sorted?not going to happen with 300 members on fbook an a few cheerleaders on rm chat is it.your posts are simply pathetic.
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Sean06 wrote:
24 May 2025, 21:27
Weetrogg2 wrote:
24 May 2025, 17:37
Sean06 wrote:
24 May 2025, 13:44
On what basis are you posting rumours or are you in the know :hmmmm
It was basically what was said at the 2 day briefing. Most of the reps from the trial areas said the USO reforms are unworkable. A lot of reps/officials left the briefing downhearted.

I personally have no faith or trust in the executive to get a fair deal- this is my personal opinion.
Were did you hear this trials are unworkable.?
From the scottish reps at the briefing
None of the offices in their areas are working
In fact an absolute shambles
Duties failing massively every day
Even with all the surplus staff still in position
Even the newton mearns office with all drivers
Need more duties put in
Members health ( mental and physical going downhill )
And remember this is quiet time of year
Mail volumes are also up on last year
yellowbelly
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Re: USO linked to pay rise

Post by yellowbelly »

Sean06 wrote:
24 May 2025, 21:27
Weetrogg2 wrote:
24 May 2025, 17:37
Sean06 wrote:
24 May 2025, 13:44
On what basis are you posting rumours or are you in the know :hmmmm
It was basically what was said at the 2 day briefing. Most of the reps from the trial areas said the USO reforms are unworkable. A lot of reps/officials left the briefing downhearted.

I personally have no faith or trust in the executive to get a fair deal- this is my personal opinion.
Were did you hear this trials are unworkable.?
Have we heard they're a resounding success?
Weetrogg2
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Re: USO linked to pay rise

Post by Weetrogg2 »

Who are pwrfc? Sean just what I’ve been told by reps/branch secretaries who wet at the 2 day briefing. You could speak with your area representative and your branch secretary to provide you with a summary of how things after all they were in the briefing.
tramssirhc
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Re: USO linked to pay rise

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Sean06 wrote:
24 May 2025, 21:31
tramssirhc wrote:
24 May 2025, 20:53
Weetrogg2 wrote:
24 May 2025, 17:37
Sean06 wrote:
24 May 2025, 13:44
On what basis are you posting rumours or are you in the know :hmmmm
It was basically what was said at the 2 day briefing. Most of the reps from the trial areas said the USO reforms are unworkable. A lot of reps/officials left the briefing downhearted.

I personally have no faith or trust in the executive to get a fair deal- this is my personal opinion.
If the basics aren't right it's never going to work. We all know it. The CWU are simply ignoring us and saying we're the problem.
Time for the pwrfc to step up then an get it all sorted?not going to happen with 300 members on fbook an a few cheerleaders on rm chat is it.your posts are simply pathetic.
And here come the CWU pyschophants. So delusional they'll ignore the truth, lie, slander, attack anyone who dares to say what we all know - the CWU is shite. The modern trade union movement is built on fear and touting tawdry offers. Workers have seen through the threats and intimidation. The CWU is that pathetic it can't even defend long serving workers in Mount Pleasant. Sean06 just can't accept the truth.
"The leadership will sabotage the fight and only make the slightest move under fear of powerful working class action" - Des Warren