Delivery supplement agreement

[smccutch74]

Can someone please post the full delivery supplement agreement have been looking around but can only see the No. 624/11 Ref : 60000 Date: 14th July 2011

[tramssirhc]

Whats up?

[Woody Guthrie]

Can someone please post the full delivery supplement agreement have been looking around but can only see the No. 624/11 Ref : 60000 Date: 14th July 2011

There isn't a stand alone delivery supplement agreement, it's part of the Business Transformation 2010 agreement

Pay Simplification
Delivery

Given the challenges the business is facing, the current Door to Door payment arrangements do not support the need to drive growth in this market and we have undertaken a fundamental review of this area. We have also reviewed arrangements for early shift payments in delivery. It has been agreed to cease and incorporate the total value of these payments (£52m Door to Door, and £40m delivery early shift allowance and grandfather rights) into a new permanent (non-pensionable) supplement to basic pay. This is payable to all delivery office employees directly tagged to and working in the delivery
function. The supplement will increase in value as agreed in basic pay rises. It will flow through in 2011 and 2012. It will be paid 52 weeks a year at the rate of £20.60 per week, pro rata for part time employees and applies to new entrants.
Individuals in receipt of pensionable allowances incorporated into this payment will retain full pensionability of those elements on a reserved rights basis.

[smccutch74]

Yeah that’s what I read. I thought that there would be a break down of the agreement that would be more specific. Whilst I understand the agreement and the purpose of the agreement my query is this.

The delivery of d2d is based on a 6 day delivery regardless of quantity. Full time or duty holders deliver 5 days of their contracted hours. The 6th day is delivered by your cover or floater on your rest day. If the floater doesn’t deliver theirs or there is no cover as is the norm these days who is responsible to deliver the remainder. Does it fall back onto the duty holders. Same scenario when you are on holidays for a week come back and your duty has barely been covered households all left who has to deliver them. I had a scenario last August as I had one sick day and was deducted 1/5 of my delivery supplement so from then I have refused to deliver any of the floaters d2d from then. The agreement is very fague and does not cover any scenarios or responsibilities

[Londonsburning]

Yeah that’s what I read. I thought that there would be a break down of the agreement that would be more specific. Whilst I understand the agreement and the purpose of the agreement my query is this.

The delivery of d2d is based on a 6 day delivery regardless of quantity. Full time or duty holders deliver 5 days of their contracted hours. The 6th day is delivered by your cover or floater on your rest day. If the floater doesn’t deliver theirs or there is no cover as is the norm these days who is responsible to deliver the remainder. Does it fall back onto the duty holders. Same scenario when you are on holidays for a week come back and your duty has barely been covered households all left who has to deliver them.

It's basically a 'handling' payment, nothing to do with delivering the f***ing things. Why do you think indoor MC staff also get around 9 quid a week supplement for wheeling a York across the loading bay once a week?

[Woody Guthrie]

Yeah that’s what I read. I thought that there would be a break down of the agreement that would be more specific. Whilst I understand the agreement and the purpose of the agreement my query is this.

The delivery of d2d is based on a 6 day delivery regardless of quantity. Full time or duty holders deliver 5 days of their contracted hours. The 6th day is delivered by your cover or floater on your rest day. If the floater doesn’t deliver theirs or there is no cover as is the norm these days who is responsible to deliver the remainder. Does it fall back onto the duty holders. Same scenario when you are on holidays for a week come back and your duty has barely been covered households all left who has to deliver them. I had a scenario last August as I had one sick day and was deducted 1/5 of my delivery supplement so from then I have refused to deliver any of the floaters d2d from then. The agreement is very fague and does not cover any scenarios or responsibilities

There's a simple answer to that.
The delivery supplement has nothing to do with D2D.

[Valentina@1]

Hearing that ward Walsh and co are talking about doing v away with it in this pay deal….all good if it becomes pensionable but got feeling we gonna get shafted somehow

[tramssirhc]

Yeah that’s what I read. I thought that there would be a break down of the agreement that would be more specific. Whilst I understand the agreement and the purpose of the agreement my query is this.

The delivery of d2d is based on a 6 day delivery regardless of quantity. Full time or duty holders deliver 5 days of their contracted hours. The 6th day is delivered by your cover or floater on your rest day. If the floater doesn’t deliver theirs or there is no cover as is the norm these days who is responsible to deliver the remainder. Does it fall back onto the duty holders. Same scenario when you are on holidays for a week come back and your duty has barely been covered households all left who has to deliver them. I had a scenario last August as I had one sick day and was deducted 1/5 of my delivery supplement so from then I have refused to deliver any of the floaters d2d from then. The agreement is very fague and does not cover any scenarios or responsibilities

The delivery supplement is made up of numerous elements that the CWU sold to fund a pay rise. Amongst these elements was the payment for unaddressed mail also known as households or d2d's. Regarding the delivery of unaddressed items, the original method was in loops which is why there are tabs on the end of the address labels on the RM2000. These tabs maybe coloured and will have a number on them which repeats until the end of the loop.

It's become normal practice to deal with this workload in columns and for a 1/6th to be delivered.

Unaddressed mail is normal workload and should be delivered as the contract stipulates. If this workload is carried over into following weeks it's workload and should be delivered as instructed.

[fadetogrey63]

I loathe doing them, esp as new contracts don't get the delivery supplement, anyhow, in our office the manager insists that even if your off for a week and they don't get touched, you have to throw them in along with that week's d2d, which is not fair as some floaters get away without doing any for most weeks..

[SMS1969]

I loathe doing them, esp as new contracts don't get the delivery supplement, anyhow, in our office the manager insists that even if your off for a week and they don't get touched, you have to throw them in along with that week's d2d, which is not fair as some floaters get away without doing any for most weeks..

No, its up to the manager to make sure they’re put in when your away, however long your absence is, including your rest day. Just an easy get out.

[ted_e_bear]

I loathe doing them, esp as new contracts don't get the delivery supplement, anyhow, in our office the manager insists that even if your off for a week and they don't get touched, you have to throw them in along with that week's d2d, which is not fair as some floaters get away without doing any for most weeks..

No, its up to the manager to make sure they’re put in when your away, however long your absence is, including your rest day. Just an easy get out.

Exactly, I'm not too keen on them either but what Ive detested for the entirety of my employment is the piss poor management in delivery offices, they're nearly all alike in that whenever one goes another equally useless lazy awkward c*** replaces them.

[Mr Rush]

I loathe doing them, esp as new contracts don't get the delivery supplement, anyhow, in our office the manager insists that even if your off for a week and they don't get touched, you have to throw them in along with that week's d2d, which is not fair as some floaters get away without doing any for most weeks..

No, its up to the manager to make sure they’re put in when your away, however long your absence is, including your rest day. Just an easy get out.

Exactly, I'm not too keen on them either but what Ive detested for the entirety of my employment is the piss poor management in delivery offices, they're nearly all alike in that whenever one goes another equally useless lazy awkward c*** replaces them.

If you come back from a week off and that s**t is still sitting in a box at your frame, bring it to your manager's attention and make it abundantly clear that doing someone else's work is going to impact on your workload. Do not just quietly get on with it or, worse, ignore it in turn.

Like everything else, whenever it isn't on the list of important things to talk about in the group huddle it doesn't seem to matter.

[k979aaa]

I loathe doing them, esp as new contracts don't get the delivery supplement, anyhow, in our office the manager insists that even if your off for a week and they don't get touched, you have to throw them in along with that week's d2d, which is not fair as some floaters get away without doing any for most weeks..

No, its up to the manager to make sure they’re put in when your away, however long your absence is, including your rest day. Just an easy get out.

Exactly, I'm not too keen on them either but what Ive detested for the entirety of my employment is the piss poor management in delivery offices, they're nearly all alike in that whenever one goes another equally useless lazy awkward c*** replaces them.

If you come back from a week off and that s**t is still sitting in a box at your frame, bring it to your manager's attention and make it abundantly clear that doing someone else's work is going to impact on your workload. Do not just quietly get on with it or, worse, ignore it in turn.

Like everything else, whenever it isn't on the list of important things to talk about in the group huddle it doesn't seem to matter.

All D2D has a date you should not deliver out of date D2D some have time specific offers on them and vouchers.

[Alfietherat]

People who don’t do a delivery get this payment but new people who do delivery everyday don’t. Only in Royal Mail

[ted_e_bear]

People who don’t do a delivery get this payment but new people who do delivery everyday don’t. Only in Royal Mail

Hopefully they'll sort it in the pay discussions that are happening, I think the best option would be incorporate it into basic pay for someone who works on delivery rather than a separate payment.