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LTB 025/24 – Workplace Adjustments and Health Passport

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LTB 025/24 – Workplace Adjustments and Health Passport

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LTB 025/24 – Workplace Adjustments and Health Passport
LTB No. 025/25

5th February 2025

Dear Colleagues

Workplace Adjustments and Health Passport

Branches will recall LTB 352/24 Business Recovery, Transformation and Growth Agreement – Workplace Adjustments and Health Passport advising that members can complete applications for Workplace Adjustments via the My People App. The app will then alert their manager that an application has been made in this way. This approach is quicker and more beneficial to individuals if they have this access. The online application removes a lot of the barriers of approaching their manager. The manager is then duty bound to address this application and can no longer simply ‘say no’.

It has however been brought to the attention of the Department that the process remains confusing and some members have not been able to navigate their way through Apps on their mobile or PDA. This is disappointing as the new process was introduced to help all members apply for reasonable adjustments to be made that avoided the often-difficult conversation with their manager, including successive managers passing through any such positions. The process also includes carers, disabled and non-disabled members who have not met the definition of a disability who nonetheless still require assistance for other reasons and will therefore aid and direct managers to implement reasonable adjustments rather than having to leave the business through Ill-Health.

Members who do not have online access will be able to complete a physical copy that can be used to make the same application. This will be assisted by your Line Manager.

For clarity, the online process for Branches and members to follow is;
  • Access the My People App and click on the My Personal Details where you will be directed to a further screen.
  • Members should then select the This is Me
  • Members will then be prompted to complete their memorable phrase before being able to continue with their application.
For ease of access, please find attached a screen shot of the process which is also contained in the Passport Guide Word Document that Branches may wish to file for future reference.

Please bring this LTB to the attention of our representatives and members, and any queries relating to this agreement should be forwarded to the PTCS Department , email address khay@cwu.org or hmaughan@cwu.org

Bobby Weatherall

Acting Assistant Secretary

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I had to go through occy health, they wrote up a completely useless set of reasonable adjustments that didn't encompass what I had actually told them, the line managers never followed it anyway and in certain cases if your colleagues don't know you need those adjustments they fail to implement them and bully you anyway.

Passports are ok but everyone in the workplace needs to understand that an adjustment for disability is an adjustment for disability. It's not a nice to have, Failure to implement means amongst other things RM was not a safe place for me to work, and this is while it claims to be disability confident. I would like to swear but will refrain.....
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Newandscared wrote:
12 Apr 2025, 19:21
I had to go through occy health, they wrote up a completely useless set of reasonable adjustments that didn't encompass what I had actually told them, the line managers never followed it anyway and in certain cases if your colleagues don't know you need those adjustments they fail to implement them and bully you anyway.

Passports are ok but everyone in the workplace needs to understand that an adjustment for disability is an adjustment for disability. It's not a nice to have, Failure to implement means amongst other things RM was not a safe place for me to work, and this is while it claims to be disability confident. I would like to swear but will refrain.....
What sort of "disability" is it?
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2chorizon wrote:
14 Apr 2025, 16:52
Newandscared wrote:
12 Apr 2025, 19:21
I had to go through occy health, they wrote up a completely useless set of reasonable adjustments that didn't encompass what I had actually told them, the line managers never followed it anyway and in certain cases if your colleagues don't know you need those adjustments they fail to implement them and bully you anyway.

Passports are ok but everyone in the workplace needs to understand that an adjustment for disability is an adjustment for disability. It's not a nice to have, Failure to implement means amongst other things RM was not a safe place for me to work, and this is while it claims to be disability confident. I would like to swear but will refrain.....
What sort of "disability" is it?
I don't think the type is relevant, this is a hidden disability, although I understand why people ask. The main point is that a reasonable adjustment often has a positive impact on the rest of the workforce, often if the employer doesn't feel that disclosing a persons disability is required then a blanket approach to a policy change can have positive effects across the board because not implementing it would negatively effect the disabled person but only allowing a disabled person to use it may be discriminatory to other employees that either aren't disabled or haven't been diagnosed with a disability so can't yet ask for adjustment. Think things like a person with a herniated disc being allowed to use a trolley to do their deliveries...why would you not let other colleagues have a trolley when it could reduce injuries to them and increase delivery speed.
Often I find line managers don't understand through lack of experience and a very specific type of experience. Often people just plain do not care or can't see something from the perspective of a disabled employee until it happens to them. It's human nature but it need not cause issues at work.
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Re: LTB 025/24 – Workplace Adjustments and Health Passport

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Newandscared wrote:
14 Apr 2025, 18:26
2chorizon wrote:
14 Apr 2025, 16:52
Newandscared wrote:
12 Apr 2025, 19:21
I had to go through occy health, they wrote up a completely useless set of reasonable adjustments that didn't encompass what I had actually told them, the line managers never followed it anyway and in certain cases if your colleagues don't know you need those adjustments they fail to implement them and bully you anyway.

Passports are ok but everyone in the workplace needs to understand that an adjustment for disability is an adjustment for disability. It's not a nice to have, Failure to implement means amongst other things RM was not a safe place for me to work, and this is while it claims to be disability confident. I would like to swear but will refrain.....
What sort of "disability" is it?
I don't think the type is relevant, this is a hidden disability, although I understand why people ask. The main point is that a reasonable adjustment often has a positive impact on the rest of the workforce, often if the employer doesn't feel that disclosing a persons disability is required then a blanket approach to a policy change can have positive effects across the board because not implementing it would negatively effect the disabled person but only allowing a disabled person to use it may be discriminatory to other employees that either aren't disabled or haven't been diagnosed with a disability so can't yet ask for adjustment. Think things like a person with a herniated disc being allowed to use a trolley to do their deliveries...why would you not let other colleagues have a trolley when it could reduce injuries to them and increase delivery speed.
Often I find line managers don't understand through lack of experience and a very specific type of experience. Often people just plain do not care or can't see something from the perspective of a disabled employee until it happens to them. It's human nature but it need not cause issues at work.
Physical and mental disabilities are very different things when it comes to the ability to be a delivery OPG. If you are claiming mental illness then this is not the job for you.
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Re: LTB 025/24 – Workplace Adjustments and Health Passport

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Londonsburning wrote:
14 Apr 2025, 19:02
Newandscared wrote:
14 Apr 2025, 18:26
2chorizon wrote:
14 Apr 2025, 16:52
Newandscared wrote:
12 Apr 2025, 19:21
I had to go through occy health, they wrote up a completely useless set of reasonable adjustments that didn't encompass what I had actually told them, the line managers never followed it anyway and in certain cases if your colleagues don't know you need those adjustments they fail to implement them and bully you anyway.

Passports are ok but everyone in the workplace needs to understand that an adjustment for disability is an adjustment for disability. It's not a nice to have, Failure to implement means amongst other things RM was not a safe place for me to work, and this is while it claims to be disability confident. I would like to swear but will refrain.....
What sort of "disability" is it?
I don't think the type is relevant, this is a hidden disability, although I understand why people ask. The main point is that a reasonable adjustment often has a positive impact on the rest of the workforce, often if the employer doesn't feel that disclosing a persons disability is required then a blanket approach to a policy change can have positive effects across the board because not implementing it would negatively effect the disabled person but only allowing a disabled person to use it may be discriminatory to other employees that either aren't disabled or haven't been diagnosed with a disability so can't yet ask for adjustment. Think things like a person with a herniated disc being allowed to use a trolley to do their deliveries...why would you not let other colleagues have a trolley when it could reduce injuries to them and increase delivery speed.
Often I find line managers don't understand through lack of experience and a very specific type of experience. Often people just plain do not care or can't see something from the perspective of a disabled employee until it happens to them. It's human nature but it need not cause issues at work.
Physical and mental disabilities are very different things when it comes to the ability to be a delivery OPG. If you are claiming mental illness then this is not the job for you.
Well sadly that just shows how uninformed and ableist you are. I didn't desclose my disability and I did actually do my job well and like it. The behaviour of my line managers and colleagues was the issue. I have 3 hidden disabilities and don't claim benefits, my limitations are easily catered for by just being a human. Would you tell your colleagues at your depot that because their line managers fail to fully understand how much work that the posties and that some need to use trolleys, means they are mentally disabled so they should leave??? I don't think so.
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Re: LTB 025/24 – Workplace Adjustments and Health Passport

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Newandscared wrote:
15 Apr 2025, 07:41
Londonsburning wrote:
14 Apr 2025, 19:02
Newandscared wrote:
14 Apr 2025, 18:26
2chorizon wrote:
14 Apr 2025, 16:52
Newandscared wrote:
12 Apr 2025, 19:21
I had to go through occy health, they wrote up a completely useless set of reasonable adjustments that didn't encompass what I had actually told them, the line managers never followed it anyway and in certain cases if your colleagues don't know you need those adjustments they fail to implement them and bully you anyway.

Passports are ok but everyone in the workplace needs to understand that an adjustment for disability is an adjustment for disability. It's not a nice to have, Failure to implement means amongst other things RM was not a safe place for me to work, and this is while it claims to be disability confident. I would like to swear but will refrain.....
What sort of "disability" is it?
I don't think the type is relevant, this is a hidden disability, although I understand why people ask. The main point is that a reasonable adjustment often has a positive impact on the rest of the workforce, often if the employer doesn't feel that disclosing a persons disability is required then a blanket approach to a policy change can have positive effects across the board because not implementing it would negatively effect the disabled person but only allowing a disabled person to use it may be discriminatory to other employees that either aren't disabled or haven't been diagnosed with a disability so can't yet ask for adjustment. Think things like a person with a herniated disc being allowed to use a trolley to do their deliveries...why would you not let other colleagues have a trolley when it could reduce injuries to them and increase delivery speed.
Often I find line managers don't understand through lack of experience and a very specific type of experience. Often people just plain do not care or can't see something from the perspective of a disabled employee until it happens to them. It's human nature but it need not cause issues at work.
Physical and mental disabilities are very different things when it comes to the ability to be a delivery OPG. If you are claiming mental illness then this is not the job for you.
Well sadly that just shows how uninformed and ableist you are. I didn't desclose my disability and I did actually do my job well and like it. The behaviour of my line managers and colleagues was the issue. I have 3 hidden disabilities and don't claim benefits, my limitations are easily catered for by just being a human. Would you tell your colleagues at your depot that because their line managers fail to fully understand how much work that the posties and that some need to use trolleys, means they are mentally disabled so they should leave??? I don't think so.
Ah "hidden disabilities"!
And you have 3!!! wow.
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Ah "hidden disabilities"!
And you have 3!!! wow.
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Yes it's possible for people to have disabilities that aren't visible to people and for them to do a job. Most of the current dialogue about disabled people scamming benefits it's wrong and unnecessary. With just a little help most of us can work, just like with a little help most non-disabled people can work.
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Newandscared wrote:
18 Apr 2025, 08:57
...Most of the current dialogue about disabled people scamming benefits it's wrong and unnecessary...
Who even said anything about this? You are claiming 3 hidden disabilities without even mentioning them here to back up your argument.
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Londonsburning wrote:
18 Apr 2025, 13:04
Newandscared wrote:
18 Apr 2025, 08:57
...Most of the current dialogue about disabled people scamming benefits it's wrong and unnecessary...
Who even said anything about this? You are claiming 3 hidden disabilities without even mentioning them here to back up your argument.
Because I don't have to declare them to everyone, only a line manager
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Newandscared wrote:
18 Apr 2025, 14:41
Londonsburning wrote:
18 Apr 2025, 13:04
Newandscared wrote:
18 Apr 2025, 08:57
...Most of the current dialogue about disabled people scamming benefits it's wrong and unnecessary...
Who even said anything about this? You are claiming 3 hidden disabilities without even mentioning them here to back up your argument.
Because I don't have to declare them to everyone, only a line manager
Who said anything about people scamming benefits though? You threw that out their as a defence without any provocation whatsoever...
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Londonsburning wrote:
18 Apr 2025, 18:39


Who said anything about people scamming benefits though? You threw that out their as a defence without any provocation whatsoever...
Have you not seen any stories in the media about disability benefits and how they need to be cut because people are abusing the system?
Do you live under a rock?
Given that you appear to be special needs I thought you would be a bit more sympathetic.
If the climate was a bank, they would already have saved it.
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clashcityrocker wrote:
18 Apr 2025, 19:42
Londonsburning wrote:
18 Apr 2025, 18:39


Who said anything about people scamming benefits though? You threw that out their as a defence without any provocation whatsoever...
Have you not seen any stories in the media about disability benefits and how they need to be cut because people are abusing the system?
Do you live under a rock?
Given that you appear to be special needs I thought you would be a bit more sympathetic.
What is your point? What does 'benefits scamming' have to do with this thread? Ah yes, absolutely nothing lol
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What do you mean what is my point?
What is your point?
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Post by Londonsburning »

clashcityrocker wrote:
19 Apr 2025, 15:21
What do you mean what is my point?
What is your point?
I'll reiterate what I said. What is your point? And what does benefits scamming have to do with this thread?