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LTB 229/23 - RMG/CWU Business Recovery, Transformation And Growth Agreement - Appendix 1 Seasonal Variation - Annual Leave

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LTB 229/23 - RMG/CWU Business Recovery, Transformation And Growth Agreement - Appendix 1 Seasonal Variation - Annual Leave

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LTB 229/23 - RMG/CWU Business Recovery, Transformation And Growth Agreement - Appendix 1 Seasonal Variation - Annual Leave
No. 229/23

8th September 2023



Dear Colleagues,

RMG/CWU Business Recovery, Transformation And Growth Agreement – Appendix 1 Seasonal Variation – Annual Leave

The CWU is aware that since the introduction of Seasonal Variation this week, there have been a large number of Branches, Representatives and members that have raised concerns in terms of how this has impacted and changed individual Annual Leave entitlements both in the PSP system and the Royal Mail PeopleApp.

Accordingly, this has been raised directly with Royal Mail and discussions have been held and continue in order to address this matter.

To confirm, the agreement on Seasonal Variation is clear in that this should not have any detrimental impact on members booked or planned annual leave for 2023/2024, or carried over leave into the next leave year. Therefore, the initial indication is that the changes in individual members’ annual leave entitlement is a Royal Mail system issue due to how annual leave is recorded and reported in hours, combined with the changes in attendance patterns under Seasonal Variation.

We know this is a further matter of frustration for members, therefore the purpose of this LTB (Letters To Branches) is to confirm we are engaged in further talks with Royal Mail to find the required and acceptable resolution, which will then be communicated as soon as possible.

Any queries to the content of the above please contact the Outdoor Department reference 532, email address: njones@cwu.org

Yours sincerely,



Mark Baulch
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Why are the CWU so late to the party after every Royal Mail sly move . It seems only outrage from members forces them into a response.
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chickenwittle wrote:
08 Sep 2023, 20:56
Why are the CWU so late to the party after every Royal Mail sly move . It seems only outrage from members forces them into a response.
i guess it's a technical issue that will be rectified later, but this issue means i've now fallen below the hours needed to request a day off, told nothing can be done until the system allows it
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i bet royal mail are quaking in their high class shoes - NOT
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chickenwittle wrote:
08 Sep 2023, 20:56
Why are the CWU so late to the party after every Royal Mail sly move . It seems only outrage from members forces them into a response.
The CWU won't do anything unless enough members kick up a fuss.

Maybe it's Royal Mails ploy to keep doing this and intentionally look for ways to try and break the agreement so that they can keep the Union busy for some reason??
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How did the union fail to foresee this?
They should have told RM to revert to recording leave as days, not hours. You take a day off, your leave is reduced by 1 day. Simples.
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wandle wrote:
25 Sep 2023, 20:14
How did the union fail to foresee this?
They should have told RM to revert to recording leave as days, not hours. You take a day off, your leave is reduced by 1 day. Simples.
Has to be in hours as PSP works with hours, not days
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I got my 2 hours back this week, PSP must have been updated.
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Just checked mine and also got it back..