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CANCELLING UNION SUBS = SECOND SICK ABSENCE FREE
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steve2zaf
- Posts: 76
- Joined: 22 Jan 2010, 16:21
- Gender: Male
CANCELLING UNION SUBS = SECOND SICK ABSENCE FREE
Today I have cancelled my subs via HR .
I feel totally satisfied by my action , as I can no longer support/fund this inept , underhanded organisation.
I am now - £3.64 a week - £15.77 a month - £189.28 a year better off.
Considering a second sick absence would cost approximately £140 ( after tax) , I will still be about £50 better off a year.
I made a quick call to HR on 03456060603 and it was all sorted in a couple of minutes.
If I could thank this hapless union for anything - It would be for my extra 1% payrise.
I feel totally satisfied by my action , as I can no longer support/fund this inept , underhanded organisation.
I am now - £3.64 a week - £15.77 a month - £189.28 a year better off.
Considering a second sick absence would cost approximately £140 ( after tax) , I will still be about £50 better off a year.
I made a quick call to HR on 03456060603 and it was all sorted in a couple of minutes.
If I could thank this hapless union for anything - It would be for my extra 1% payrise.
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aiden01
- MAIL CENTRES/PROCESSING
- Posts: 7001
- Joined: 27 Feb 2013, 21:43
- Gender: Male
Re: CANCELLING UNION SUBS = SECOND SICK ABSENCE FREE
Until something happens an you will go looking for a repsteve2zaf wrote: ↑14 Jul 2023, 23:02Today I have cancelled my subs via HR .
I feel totally satisfied by my action , as I can no longer support/fund this inept , underhanded organisation.
I am now - £3.64 a week - £15.77 a month - £189.28 a year better off.
Considering a second sick absence would cost approximately £140 ( after tax) , I will still be about £50 better off a year.
I made a quick call to HR on 03456060603 and it was all sorted in a couple of minutes.
If I could thank this hapless union for anything - It would be for my extra 1% payrise.
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deadbox
- Posts: 357
- Joined: 27 May 2007, 11:51
Re: CANCELLING UNION SUBS = SECOND SICK ABSENCE FREE
Over the past 30 years, I have seen many people, break strikes, then later, slip up and get into trouble- the union still defends them, and I am still working alongside them to this day.
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aiden01
- MAIL CENTRES/PROCESSING
- Posts: 7001
- Joined: 27 Feb 2013, 21:43
- Gender: Male
Re: CANCELLING UNION SUBS = SECOND SICK ABSENCE FREE
Good reps then everyone is entitled to a rep but the point is a paying member will get a better rep than strike breakers.
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Constance
- EX ROYAL MAIL
- Posts: 95
- Joined: 28 Apr 2015, 06:06
- Gender: Female
Re: CANCELLING UNION SUBS = SECOND SICK ABSENCE FREE
Dear lord give me strength , they know not what they do.
You change the exec if you don't like the deal, you don't bail on the whole organisation. Reactions like this are all part of the current zeitgeist I guess, where if someone or something causes you the slightest discomfort, you walk away.
Erm, no, this is not what the Union is about. It's not a Spa that handed you a dirty towel. You change your Union. You Vote in a new Executive. It's not hard to do given the numbers who are unhappy with the negotiations. Takes only time and a bit of patience. What doesn't bring about change if you flounce off and take your money elsewhere like you're unhappy with the service in a bad hotel. As member of a democratic organisation, you are an agent of change by remaining a member.
People are brainwashed/conditioned so much by consumerism and the transactional nature of society that they apply it to anything and everything they spend money on.
I know it's 3 in the morning. I'm on holiday for a week. I'm going to do something useful now and get some sleep.
You change the exec if you don't like the deal, you don't bail on the whole organisation. Reactions like this are all part of the current zeitgeist I guess, where if someone or something causes you the slightest discomfort, you walk away.
Erm, no, this is not what the Union is about. It's not a Spa that handed you a dirty towel. You change your Union. You Vote in a new Executive. It's not hard to do given the numbers who are unhappy with the negotiations. Takes only time and a bit of patience. What doesn't bring about change if you flounce off and take your money elsewhere like you're unhappy with the service in a bad hotel. As member of a democratic organisation, you are an agent of change by remaining a member.
People are brainwashed/conditioned so much by consumerism and the transactional nature of society that they apply it to anything and everything they spend money on.
I know it's 3 in the morning. I'm on holiday for a week. I'm going to do something useful now and get some sleep.
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LouBarlow
- Posts: 4611
- Joined: 15 Oct 2007, 18:56
Re: CANCELLING UNION SUBS = SECOND SICK ABSENCE FREE
I’m presuming you will be donating your lump sum, won by your ‘inept, underhand’ union to charity? Good man. Stand by those principles.
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guardianangel
- Posts: 1782
- Joined: 21 Feb 2020, 19:40
- Gender: Male
Re: CANCELLING UNION SUBS = SECOND SICK ABSENCE FREE
If you have 70% of members vote yes what is stopping that 70% of doughnuts voting Dave and his buddies back in again does he carry on with a union he has no faith in ,nah im with him the No voters have been shat on from a massive height i'd be amazed if any of them would stay around for it to happen again ,i did vote Tory once in my life never ever again and i was in the CWU once never ever again.Constance wrote: ↑15 Jul 2023, 03:04Dear lord give me strength , they know not what they do.
You change the exec if you don't like the deal, you don't bail on the whole organisation. Reactions like this are all part of the current zeitgeist I guess, where if someone or something causes you the slightest discomfort, you walk away.
Erm, no, this is not what the Union is about. It's not a Spa that handed you a dirty towel. You change your Union. You Vote in a new Executive. It's not hard to do given the numbers who are unhappy with the negotiations. Takes only time and a bit of patience. What doesn't bring about change if you flounce off and take your money elsewhere like you're unhappy with the service in a bad hotel. As member of a democratic organisation, you are an agent of change by remaining a member.
People are brainwashed/conditioned so much by consumerism and the transactional nature of society that they apply it to anything and everything they spend money on.
I know it's 3 in the morning. I'm on holiday for a week. I'm going to do something useful now and get some sleep.
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moon71
- MAIL CENTRES/PROCESSING
- Posts: 278
- Joined: 07 Aug 2007, 21:47
Re: CANCELLING UNION SUBS = SECOND SICK ABSENCE FREE
I think the union will be a better organisation without you.
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Woody Guthrie
- Posts: 5166
- Joined: 29 Sep 2018, 20:47
- Gender: Male
Re: CANCELLING UNION SUBS = SECOND SICK ABSENCE FREE
Today I have cancelled my Disney plus subscription.
Just thought since we were randomly sharing our financial decisions I would join in.
I'm pretty sure they're an even more inept, underhanded organisation than the CWU.
I've decided I'm now going to represented by Netflix.
Just thought since we were randomly sharing our financial decisions I would join in.
I'm pretty sure they're an even more inept, underhanded organisation than the CWU.
I've decided I'm now going to represented by Netflix.
Only dead fish follow the current
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hazzeem025
- Posts: 266
- Joined: 11 Oct 2009, 18:09
- Gender: Male
Re: CANCELLING UNION SUBS = SECOND SICK ABSENCE FREE
Why do no voters not realise all these changes are coming in regardless of a yes vote? Vote no? Then what? Go on strike indefinitely? Like the strikes worked last time! Burn it all to the ground? That'll look good won't it? Because if that did happen it would be the members of the CWU that would take the blame for the demise of R.M. The media in this country would slaughter the CWU.guardianangel wrote: ↑15 Jul 2023, 05:58If you have 70% of members vote yes what is stopping that 70% of doughnuts voting Dave and his buddies back in again does he carry on with a union he has no faith in ,nah im with him the No voters have been shat on from a massive height i'd be amazed if any of them would stay around for it to happen again ,i did vote Tory once in my life never ever again and i was in the CWU once never ever again.Constance wrote: ↑15 Jul 2023, 03:04Dear lord give me strength , they know not what they do.
You change the exec if you don't like the deal, you don't bail on the whole organisation. Reactions like this are all part of the current zeitgeist I guess, where if someone or something causes you the slightest discomfort, you walk away.
Erm, no, this is not what the Union is about. It's not a Spa that handed you a dirty towel. You change your Union. You Vote in a new Executive. It's not hard to do given the numbers who are unhappy with the negotiations. Takes only time and a bit of patience. What doesn't bring about change if you flounce off and take your money elsewhere like you're unhappy with the service in a bad hotel. As member of a democratic organisation, you are an agent of change by remaining a member.
People are brainwashed/conditioned so much by consumerism and the transactional nature of society that they apply it to anything and everything they spend money on.
I know it's 3 in the morning. I'm on holiday for a week. I'm going to do something useful now and get some sleep.
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luddite
- Posts: 451
- Joined: 06 May 2008, 20:24
Re: CANCELLING UNION SUBS = SECOND SICK ABSENCE FREE
What lump sum did the CWU win?
Is this the lump sum RM threw in the pot to get the deal over the line?
The same lump sum my managers are getting?
The same lump sum my manager said yesterday ' you'll probably not getting it'
I think the OP can do what he likes with it.
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Woody Guthrie
- Posts: 5166
- Joined: 29 Sep 2018, 20:47
- Gender: Male
Re: CANCELLING UNION SUBS = SECOND SICK ABSENCE FREE
Deep down they do.Why do no voters not realise all these changes are coming in regardless of a yes vote?
Deep down even they know that a no vote was simply an understandable but ultimately futile emotional response to being f****d over by the business.
Deep down they understand that rejecting this crap deal would probably have led to us capitulating completely and accepting an even crappier deal after losing even more money striking.
Deep down they are probably grateful that the deal was not rejected because they can now blame everything that goes wrong from now until the end of time on those bellends who voted yes without the obvious danger of being proven wrong.
It's a great time to be a no voter, the problem is like the all those who claimed to be at the 1966 world cup final I suspect many of those claiming to vote no are actually telling porkies because the numbers don't stack up.
Only dead fish follow the current
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broughts
- Posts: 328
- Joined: 24 Nov 2011, 19:09
- Gender: Male
Re: CANCELLING UNION SUBS = SECOND SICK ABSENCE FREE
Unfortunately RM will always have the union over the barrel in future negotiations because they will threaten to remove release time and union subs from wages and the union will fold again and again at the end of the day the CWU is a business and no business could afford to lose that amount of money and still function
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George50
- Posts: 54
- Joined: 24 Jun 2023, 17:02
- Gender: Male
Re: CANCELLING UNION SUBS = SECOND SICK ABSENCE FREE
Sure some reps are good but in our office the rep never ever takes they walk out they walk around with management holding hands constantly disagreeing with postie's they are involved in overtime with management I have even been in a rtw interview when they agreed with management (it was illegal) I treatened a grievance over. them both then everything was retracted.i do not trust any part of the cwu bottom up.so I also cancelled my subs .also complained about rep to area waste of time
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steve2zaf
- Posts: 76
- Joined: 22 Jan 2010, 16:21
- Gender: Male
Re: CANCELLING UNION SUBS = SECOND SICK ABSENCE FREE
People who cancel have every right to the lump sum . We lost a lot of money from striking and have every right to recuperate some of it .
This was never about change , it was happening.
It was about the t&c .