What is the future for CWU

[Skybluemoose]

Serious question - what will happen to the CWU within the Royal Mail if they don’t succeed in getting a deal? Will Royal Mail still make a space for them or is the union not wanted by the Royal Mail? What’s their future basically?

[redlen]

The CWU has been legally recognized to be a mouth piece for its employees and for the purpose of collective bargaining. It will be the members who have to derecognIse the CWU. That will happen if there is a mass exodus of employees withdrawing from the Union.

Royal Mail at the moment smell blood like a shark through inaction from the CWU for whatever reason. That is why they are imposing changes with impunity and executive action.

The CWU are at this moment in the eyes of Royal Mail impotent, and can never rise to the occasion.

[robson144]

Once/if an agreement is made, Dave ward resigns. My prediction.

[FirstPost]

If we don't get offered a good deal, then people leave in droves = end of CWU, I do wonder how much they've lost from subs already due to people leaving the job

[richj2009]

The fact the union are now sizing up annualised hours should send a shock wave through our union members. That was one of the biggest things on the strike agenda. As it stands now we have literally lost 1800 quid for nothing. I'll follow the union to the bitter end as we need a big membership to hold off something. Not sure what that something is at this present time lol.

[enskied]

It's the future we are fighting for heavens sake.
We are fighting for us not them. We are the CWU, not only postal.

We are not only fighting for ourselves the CWU. I have not forgotten the statement received from the fire brigade. Offering their full support to us and others. I thank them for that.

We fight because we have to, not only for ourselves, but others.

It will not be the fault of Dave Ward and the executive, it will our fault, he's our representative doing his best for us. If we don't stand up for ourselves, why should we expect them to stand for us.

[richj2009]

Is it a slight possibility that his need now for an agreement is to preserve over 100 000 subs and his own 100,000 plus salary. I agree he between a rock and a hard place but to bow down to some quite delicate propositions that most of us are opposed seems like a withdrawal and a white flag to these complete scumbags who govern us.

[TopperGas]

The CWU has been legally recognized to be a mouth piece for its employees and for the purpose of collective bargaining. It will be the members who have to derecognIse the CWU. That will happen if there is a mass exodus of employees withdrawing from the Union.

Royal Mail at the moment smell blood like a shark through inaction from the CWU for whatever reason. That is why they are imposing changes with impunity and executive action.

The CWU are at this moment in the eyes of Royal Mail impotent, and can never rise to the occasion.

How do you know how RM see the CWU, for all we know the CWU may have agreed with RM not to take any further IA as it could well send RM into Admin and that's hardly a good move for it's members. If the CWU is so impotent why have RM agreed not to withdraw the allowances which must be costing them £m's?

[k979aaa]

The CWU has been legally recognized to be a mouth piece for its employees and for the purpose of collective bargaining. It will be the members who have to derecognIse the CWU. That will happen if there is a mass exodus of employees withdrawing from the Union.

Royal Mail at the moment smell blood like a shark through inaction from the CWU for whatever reason. That is why they are imposing changes with impunity and executive action.

The CWU are at this moment in the eyes of Royal Mail impotent, and can never rise to the occasion.

Well as a postman they at least did not shoot their foot off like you did!

[enskied]

The CWU has been legally recognized to be a mouth piece for its employees and for the purpose of collective bargaining. It will be the members who have to derecognIse the CWU. That will happen if there is a mass exodus of employees withdrawing from the Union.

Royal Mail at the moment smell blood like a shark through inaction from the CWU for whatever reason. That is why they are imposing changes with impunity and executive action.

The CWU are at this moment in the eyes of Royal Mail impotent, and can never rise to the occasion.

The CWU are our elected representatives to express our concerns and put them forward.
To dismiss them as a "mouthpiece" is to dismiss the concerns of the workforce.

What responsible employer would do that?

As you say they smell blood .... Not entirely a responsible approach is it.?

We are still here Len fighting.

[k979aaa]

The CWU has been legally recognized to be a mouth piece for its employees and for the purpose of collective bargaining. It will be the members who have to derecognIse the CWU. That will happen if there is a mass exodus of employees withdrawing from the Union.

Royal Mail at the moment smell blood like a shark through inaction from the CWU for whatever reason. That is why they are imposing changes with impunity and executive action.

The CWU are at this moment in the eyes of Royal Mail impotent, and can never rise to the occasion.

The CWU are our elected representatives to express our concerns and put them forward.
To dismiss them as a "mouthpiece" is to dismiss the concerns of the workforce.

What responsible employer would do that?

As you say they smell blood .... Not entirely a responsible approach is it.?

We are still here Len fighting.

He has no fight as he is not one of us all for we are but postmen as he posted last night and redacted it soon after!

[enskied]

Yes, I saw that.
Len is a very important man.

I didn't know that he had redacted his statement though.

And we are just Postmen and women. I'm very proud to be one. Why is Len so shy about himself?? Yet bragging all the while.

[SpacePhoenix]

The fact the union are now sizing up annualised hours should send a shock wave through our union members. That was one of the biggest things on the strike agenda.

The union can do one if they think members will accept that

[archie83]

Serious question - what will happen to the CWU within the Royal Mail if they don’t succeed in getting a deal? Will Royal Mail still make a space for them or is the union not wanted by the Royal Mail? What’s their future basically?

As a group we will always need the cwu even though the deal isn't to everyone's liking, probably the only reason why this job/company is worth fighting for now is because of the cwu.Take away the union and royal mail will walk all over us.

[derricksmyth]

I think there is no chance of us striking before May 4th due to the Local Elections anyway. I think this is why the channels of communication are being kept open from our end, even though management have walked away!