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What deal are you waiting for?

Pay talks 2022 discussion, news, LTB's RMCtv and all BUSINESS RECOVERY, TRANSFORMATION AND GROWTH AGREEMENT chat

What do you want to do

Vote on the current offer
255
52%
Wait for the next offer
239
48%
 
Total votes: 494

weary_posty
Posts: 225
Joined: 01 Jul 2011, 15:08
Gender: Male

What deal are you waiting for?

Post by weary_posty »

I’ve read a lot today on the current proposals on the table. A fair split between wanting to vote & flat out refusal. What I haven’t heard is what those that reject the proposal are realistically hoping for.
Feel free to comment below
redlen
Posts: 1331
Joined: 21 Dec 2021, 12:05
Gender: Male

Re: What deal are you waiting for?

Post by redlen »

Honesty and integrity from both the CWU and Royal Mail, not subjective innuendo, spin and behave like adults.

Peoples very futures are on the line
datasaint
Posts: 1541
Joined: 22 Sep 2008, 17:19
Gender: Male

Re: What deal are you waiting for?

Post by datasaint »

A backdated pay award of 9% for 2022, then we'll start on negotiating 2023's pay.
chickenwittle
Posts: 2082
Joined: 15 Nov 2009, 09:43
Gender: Male

Re: What deal are you waiting for?

Post by chickenwittle »

Nobody has seen the full offer ,all that’s been revealed is the juicy bits lump sums No sunday etc. until Royal Mail come clean on everything, sick pay , annualised hours etc. there is nothing worth voting on.
FirstPost
Posts: 644
Joined: 16 Aug 2018, 09:37
Gender: Female

Re: What deal are you waiting for?

Post by FirstPost »

Full backdated pay to April 2022 is a start
SMS1969
Posts: 975
Joined: 28 Jun 2021, 11:36
Gender: Male

Re: What deal are you waiting for?

Post by SMS1969 »

I’m realistically looking for a decent finish time, no later than 3.30pm.
No commit to deliver.
A better percentage pay rise than the one offered, with back pay.
Sick pay at a similar level to what it is now- I don’t mind a minor adjustment,as long as the first sickness is full pay.
Is this really too much to ask?
Lapzio
Posts: 36
Joined: 11 Jan 2018, 20:03
Gender: Male

Re: What deal are you waiting for?

Post by Lapzio »

The deal has to be fully transparent in terms of every aspect , sick pay , commit to deliver ??? ,
i personally have not had any more on to my round but appreciate others have had totally unrealistic additions , if they did this to me no problem i just work my hours, but if there is a commit to deliver its totally unacceptable to make someone go over there time every day when the workload is unrealistic .
RTP
Posts: 863
Joined: 22 Apr 2011, 14:24
Gender: Male

Re: What deal are you waiting for?

Post by RTP »

chickenwittle wrote:
05 Apr 2023, 19:50
Nobody has seen the full offer ,all that’s been revealed is the juicy bits lump sums No sunday etc. until Royal Mail come clean on everything, sick pay , annualised hours etc. there is nothing worth voting on.
This
Splappy_McSplap
Posts: 226
Joined: 02 Sep 2009, 13:55
Gender: Male

Re: What deal are you waiting for?

Post by Splappy_McSplap »

For our employer to not do the equivalent of saying "I'm going to give you ten quid" and then only giving you eight quid, and then when you ask where the other two quid is, they say "I gave you it a year ago".
rambo1
EX ROYAL MAIL
Posts: 3266
Joined: 12 Jun 2013, 20:00
Gender: Male

Re: What deal are you waiting for?

Post by rambo1 »

norm wrote:
05 Apr 2023, 19:45
A backdated pay award of 9% for 2022, then we'll start on negotiating 2023's pay.
Lol, and back to the real world.....
rambo1
EX ROYAL MAIL
Posts: 3266
Joined: 12 Jun 2013, 20:00
Gender: Male

Re: What deal are you waiting for?

Post by rambo1 »

SMS1969 wrote:
05 Apr 2023, 19:51
I’m realistically looking for a decent finish time, no later than 3.30pm.
No commit to deliver.
A better percentage pay rise than the one offered, with back pay.
Sick pay at a similar level to what it is now- I don’t mind a minor adjustment,as long as the first sickness is full pay.
Is this really too much to ask?
You'll be lucky on your first point, we already finish at 4pm on rurals in our office. Your second point is an absolute no brainer. As long as we still have a finish time they can put as much work as they like on us. Nobody is ever gonna vote yes if commitment to deliver is in there.
SpacePhoenix
MAIL CENTRES/PROCESSING
Posts: 11990
Joined: 12 Nov 2008, 17:03
Gender: Male

Re: What deal are you waiting for?

Post by SpacePhoenix »

Start and finish times have no guarantee. There's a Network Review in the autumn and that could affect arrival times into MCs with the inevitable knock on affect dispatch times to DOs (and with any issues arising from lorries then getting stuck in traffic)
koolishy67
Posts: 665
Joined: 04 Nov 2010, 21:02
Gender: Male

Re: What deal are you waiting for?

Post by koolishy67 »

rambo1 wrote:
05 Apr 2023, 20:16
norm wrote:
05 Apr 2023, 19:45
A backdated pay award of 9% for 2022, then we'll start on negotiating 2023's pay.
Lol, and back to the real world.....
:Very Happy
Burghboy
Posts: 224
Joined: 21 Oct 2013, 09:19
Gender: Male

Re: What deal are you waiting for?

Post by Burghboy »

Any deal to be acceptable needs to have the bulk of the pay deal up front, none of this 6% of a 10% total over 3 years in the final year, we all know too well these bandits cannot be trusted and will screw us over and renegade on agreements like they have done in the last couple of deals….
k979aaa
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Joined: 03 Sep 2007, 19:14
Gender: Male
Location: THE NORTH

Re: What deal are you waiting for?

Post by k979aaa »

Well a deal not some fiction written on the back of a fag packet or knocked up on a managers lunch break on the 31/03/23 and presented as a deal well we now know what we are dealing with here!