November 14th - DOOMSDAY!!

[mattick]

If an agreement isn't reached by November 14th, I estimate this to be the point of no return. Royal Mail will not be able to win back the majority of its customers as retailers will be looking to other courier companies. RM will have missed out almost entirely on the biggest consumer spending period of the financial year.
Our new Czech overlord will lose a fortune in dividends and inherit a company riddled with debt. Simon Thompson kamikaze business plan is designed simply no more then to make a name for himself in the business world as the guy who broke the union. Right now the executive board and major shareholders need to be coming together to give Simon his P45 and a swift boot out the door. The guy is paid a £million a year and all he does is rant at trolls on social media!!

[world class male]

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Our new Czech overlord will lose a fortune in dividends and inherit a company riddled with debt.

if true, he won't lose much in dividends but would own a large stake in a company split into parts, and once filled with lower paid door-steppers with only the minimum pension paid in and if any at all with some, the share price will rise and the shareholders will be rejoicing and the public moaning about late and mis delivered important letter even more, all customer services will be run from india taking weeks to resolve and last but not least, unite's members will be cut by a quarter after helping them break us, meanwhile we will eventually make hermes/evri appear good enough to deliver the launch codes to a nuclear weapon
i take pride in the job i do, but everything that muppet thompson says makes me sick

[pieoftheday]

Our Czech overlord owns a pittance ot his wealth in RM, if he lost it all it would be like us losing a £10 bet

[datasaint]

The worse Royal Mail performs the more credibility it gives for IDS to seperate off GLS the profitable part, and that's what VESA want anyway.

[deadbox]

If an agreement isn't reached by November 14th, I estimate this to be the point of no return. Royal Mail will not be able to win back the majority of its customers as retailers will be looking to other courier companies. RM will have missed out almost entirely on the biggest consumer spending period of the financial year.
Our new Czech overlord will lose a fortune in dividends and inherit a company riddled with debt. Simon Thompson kamikaze business plan is designed simply no more then to make a name for himself in the business world as the guy who broke the union. Right now the executive board and major shareholders need to be coming together to give Simon his P45 and a swift boot out the door. The guy is paid a £million a year and all he does is rant at trolls on social media!!

GOOD, because if we fail and the RM plan wins, I won’t have a job going forward. I ( and everyone I know who works for RM ) feel that if we are going to lose our livelihood then the RM board should lose their jobs too, including shareholders investments - - why should it be that only postal workers pay the price. Why should your job & conditions be changed so that the board & shareholders get a bit richer at your expense. This is win or die dispute.

[k979aaa]

Well £758 Million profit has gone where £400 million shareholder dividends all the new uniform design all the electric vans and chargers all the bonuses for the top managers. All the agency staff employed since June to break the strike and all the hire vans at the sametime the £1000 bonus/bung to all managers to stop them going on the sick till christmas. IT ALL ADDS UP!

[charlatans]

Agree.

[Bob Cooney]

We don't seem to want to admit it but a large part of the profit came from the sweatshop resourced GLS model and is the cuckoo in the nest that Pullinger wants cross funded from to maintain our terms and conditions which is a contradiction in terms and as Billy Hayes would have said " a race to the bottom "

Meanwhile Davie Robertson is arguing with my Branch about the merits of economy mail which takes in 50% less revenue as competition for DSA rather than argue that we are no longer in the EU and therefore don't have follow the EU postal directive which the current regulations are based on.

[k979aaa]

So tell me where all the money has gone SHOW ME THE MONEY!

[broughts]

There won’t be any dsa or final mile letters if we fail what will these companies do then

[Woody Guthrie]

Meanwhile Davie Robertson is arguing with my Branch about the merits of economy mail which takes in 50% less revenue as competition for DSA rather than argue that we are no longer in the EU and therefore don't have follow the EU postal directive which the current regulations are based on.

Another one who didn't understand the EU directive.

Did the rest of the EU rush to follow our lead?
The truth is there is no directive that made us take the path we took, DSA was an act of self harm that the EU did not force on us and could have been abandoned at any time.

Royal Mail did it because they saw the distribution and processing savings potential in it, nothing more or less than that.

[walthmstowman]

If an agreement isn't reached by November 14th, I estimate this to be the point of no return. Royal Mail will not be able to win back the majority of its customers as retailers will be looking to other courier companies. RM will have missed out almost entirely on the biggest consumer spending period of the financial year.
Our new Czech overlord will lose a fortune in dividends and inherit a company riddled with debt. Simon Thompson kamikaze business plan is designed simply no more then to make a name for himself in the business world as the guy who broke the union. Right now the executive board and major shareholders need to be coming together to give Simon his P45 and a swift boot out the door. The guy is paid a £million a year and all he does is rant at trolls on social media!!

It would be all Simon Thompson's fault . We didn't pick this fight he did . If Thompson genuinely cared about growth, change and modernisation he wouldn't have torn up national agreements which are vital for change and modernisation . It's all gone way passed that because it's become clear he's only interested in breaking up the company and destroying the union . Therefore in my opinion Thompson has to go whether voluntary or be sacked . He's managed to get the entire workforce against him . Any enforced changes without the staff onside will end in disaster .

[freespeech]

If an agreement isn't reached by November 14th, I estimate this to be the point of no return. Royal Mail will not be able to win back the majority of its customers as retailers will be looking to other courier companies. RM will have missed out almost entirely on the biggest consumer spending period of the financial year.
Our new Czech overlord will lose a fortune in dividends and inherit a company riddled with debt. Simon Thompson kamikaze business plan is designed simply no more then to make a name for himself in the business world as the guy who broke the union. Right now the executive board and major shareholders need to be coming together to give Simon his P45 and a swift boot out the door. The guy is paid a £million a year and all he does is rant at trolls on social media!!

It would be all Simon Thompson's fault . We didn't pick this fight he did . If Thompson genuinely cared about growth, change and modernisation he wouldn't have torn up national agreements which are vital for change and modernisation . It's all gone way passed that because it's become clear he's only interested in breaking up the company and destroying the union . Therefore in my opinion Thompson has to go whether voluntary or be sacked . He's managed to get the entire workforce against him . Any enforced changes without the staff onside will end in disaster .

But we do need to separate the emotion from the facts....it's clear no agreements have been "torn up", they have been served notice on based on the get out clauses that were part of the agreement. The bigger issue here is that the clauses were part of the agreement to start with. The irony is RM have actually followed the agreement to the letter (in terms of getting out of it). If that were not the case the CWU legal team would have had them in court. They've been outmanoeuvred.

[walthmstowman]

Meanwhile Davie Robertson is arguing with my Branch about the merits of economy mail which takes in 50% less revenue as competition for DSA rather than argue that we are no longer in the EU and therefore don't have follow the EU postal directive which the current regulations are based on.

Another one who didn't understand the EU directive.

Did the rest of the EU rush to follow our lead?
The truth is there is no directive that made us take the path we took, DSA was an act of self harm that the EU did not force on us and could have been abandoned at any time.

Royal Mail did it because they saw the distribution and processing savings potential in it, nothing more or less than that.

Wrong . Tony Blair said quite clearly that indeed there was an EU directive that stated there shouldn't be any mail monopolies within the EU . That's how DSA was born and one of the many reasons why I hate the EU .

[Acca Dacca]

Meanwhile Davie Robertson is arguing with my Branch about the merits of economy mail which takes in 50% less revenue as competition for DSA rather than argue that we are no longer in the EU and therefore don't have follow the EU postal directive which the current regulations are based on.

Another one who didn't understand the EU directive.

Did the rest of the EU rush to follow our lead?
The truth is there is no directive that made us take the path we took, DSA was an act of self harm that the EU did not force on us and could have been abandoned at any time.

Royal Mail did it because they saw the distribution and processing savings potential in it, nothing more or less than that.

Wrong . Tony Blair said quite clearly that indeed there was an EU directive that stated there shouldn't be any mail monopolies within the EU . That's how DSA was born and one of the many reasons why I hate the EU .

There was no insistence that it was brought in. It was the sole choice of the UK government. Other EU countries governments didn’t.

And before you say, “but Tony Blair said….” I have a sneaking suspicion you don’t believe everything else Tony Blair says would I be right?