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LTB 414/22 – 2022 DISPUTES RELATING TO ROYAL MAIL GROUP PAY AND BREAKING THE “PATHWAY TO CHANGE” AND ASSOCIATED NATIONAL AGREEMENTS AND PROTECTIONS
No. 414/22

19th October 2022

Dear Colleagues,

2022 DISPUTES RELATING TO ROYAL MAIL GROUP PAY AND BREAKING THE “PATHWAY TO CHANGE” AND ASSOCIATED NATIONAL AGREEMENTS AND PROTECTIONS

The purpose of this LTB is to inform Branches and Representatives that the department has today served the statutory notice of discontinuous strike action to RMG.

The strike will cover all duties and scheduled attendance commencing between the period at or after 04:00 on Wednesday 2nd November 2022 and before 04:00 on Thursday 3rd November 2022 and will involve all CWU Grades at Parcel Super-hub/Regional Distribution Centres, Royal Mail International, Warrington Rail Terminal, Parcelforce Worldwide Processing (Coventry/Chorley/Hatfield) including all Network Vehicle Operating Centres (VOCs) and Fleet sites based within these sites and any stand-alone Network VOCs. The industrial action will be discontinuous.

The strike will cover all duties and scheduled attendance commencing between the period at or after 04:00 on Thursday 3rd November 2022 and before 04:00 on Friday 4th November 2022 and will involve all CWU Grades at Mail Centres (including Processing, Engineers, Area Distribution, Collections, Fleet, Administration and Revenue Protection members), National Returns Centre, Air Hubs, Distribution Hubs, Walk Bundling Centres, Customer Experience, Admin/HR Services and Manual Data Entry Centres – including all Network VOCs based at these sites. The industrial action will be discontinuous.

The strike will cover all duties and scheduled attendance commencing between the period at or after 04:00 on Friday 4th November 2022 and before 04:00 on Saturday 5th November 2022 and will involve all CWU Grades at Delivery Offices, Mail Processing Units, Sub Postal Delivery Offices and Collection Hubs tagged to Delivery Offices, all Parcelforce Worldwide Depots (including Administration grades), Royal Mail Specialist Services (Relay) workplaces and stand-alone Fleet units. The industrial action will be discontinuous.

The Postal Department is working on a FAQ document and Branches/Representatives will be contacted in due course with further clarification on the above.

Any enquiries in relation to the content of this LTB should be addressed to the DGS(P) Department.

Yours sincerely,



Andy Furey
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Hang on a sec… I work in an RDC and have Thursday November 3rd marked on Google Calendar as the rolling strike day for our function of the business. This LTB says we’re out on the Wednesday, 2nd November.
Did they change it?
Or did I get it confused with a National Rail strike which definitely IS on Thursday November 3rd??
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wandle wrote:
20 Oct 2022, 09:55
Hang on a sec… I work in an RDC and have Thursday November 3rd marked on Google Calendar as the rolling strike day for our function of the business. This LTB says we’re out on the Wednesday, 2nd November.
Did they change it?
Or did I get it confused with a National Rail strike which definitely IS on Thursday November 3rd??
You are correct ..... Deliveries are due to Strike Friday the 4th.

I believe these are just additional days which have been added to ramp up the pressure that week. Personally I think that's a BIG ask, losing three days pay in the week, but we are where we are. We had a few youngsters considering Strike Breaking today. The Rep had a chat and managed to convince them not to. :Applause

With three days in one week I feel it's going to be a BIG ask, and Reps are going to have their work cut out for them. Hopefully we'll have some movement from Royal Mail by then. :cuppa
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Dorset Plodder wrote:
20 Oct 2022, 10:18
wandle wrote:
20 Oct 2022, 09:55
Hang on a sec… I work in an RDC and have Thursday November 3rd marked on Google Calendar as the rolling strike day for our function of the business. This LTB says we’re out on the Wednesday, 2nd November.
Did they change it?
Or did I get it confused with a National Rail strike which definitely IS on Thursday November 3rd??
You are correct ..... Deliveries are due to Strike Friday the 4th.

I believe these are just additional days which have been added to ramp up the pressure that week. Personally I think that's a BIG ask, losing three days pay in the week, but we are where we are. We had a few youngsters considering Strike Breaking today. The Rep had a chat and managed to convince them not to. :Applause

With three days in one week I feel it's going to be a BIG ask, and Reps are going to have their work cut out for them. Hopefully we'll have some movement from Royal Mail by then. :cuppa
It's not 3 days in a week, it is one day for each function rather than all being out for one day.
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Post by Acca Dacca »

Dorset Plodder wrote:
20 Oct 2022, 10:18
wandle wrote:
20 Oct 2022, 09:55
Hang on a sec… I work in an RDC and have Thursday November 3rd marked on Google Calendar as the rolling strike day for our function of the business. This LTB says we’re out on the Wednesday, 2nd November.
Did they change it?
Or did I get it confused with a National Rail strike which definitely IS on Thursday November 3rd??
You are correct ..... Deliveries are due to Strike Friday the 4th.

I believe these are just additional days which have been added to ramp up the pressure that week. Personally I think that's a BIG ask, losing three days pay in the week, but we are where we are. We had a few youngsters considering Strike Breaking today. The Rep had a chat and managed to convince them not to. :Applause

With three days in one week I feel it's going to be a BIG ask, and Reps are going to have their work cut out for them. Hopefully we'll have some movement from Royal Mail by then. :cuppa
It’s only one day each
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Post by Dorset Plodder »

Acca Dacca wrote:
20 Oct 2022, 10:26
It’s only one day each
You're Right AD! :d'oh! My fault for quickly scanning the LTB. Apoliges for Bum Info Wandle :arrrghhh

So WTF is that LTB all about if we've already been given those dates? These LTBs are difficult enough to decypher at the best of times without including all these weird job titles that I've never heard about. :cuppa
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One day for each that’s why they are called ROLLING strikes. :d'oh!
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Post by Acca Dacca »

Dorset Plodder wrote:
20 Oct 2022, 10:44
Acca Dacca wrote:
20 Oct 2022, 10:26
It’s only one day each
You're Right AD! :d'oh! My fault for quickly scanning the LTB. Apoliges for Bum Info Wandle :arrrghhh

So WTF is that LTB all about if we've already been given those dates? These LTBs are difficult enough to decypher at the best of times without including all these weird job titles that I've never heard about. :cuppa
The union hadnt given the two weeks notice until yesterday - this is that official notice
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Post by Martin Walsh »

Due to the legal requirement demanding that the union has to identify the numbers of grades as well as staff who are taking strike action , where an RDC is attached to a VOC they will be taking action with the network drivers which in the first functional strike is the Wednesday.
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Post by wandle »

Dorset Plodder wrote:
20 Oct 2022, 10:44
Acca Dacca wrote:
20 Oct 2022, 10:26
It’s only one day each
You're Right AD! :d'oh! My fault for quickly scanning the LTB. Apoliges for Bum Info Wandle :arrrghhh

So WTF is that LTB all about if we've already been given those dates? These LTBs are difficult enough to decypher at the best of times without including all these weird job titles that I've never heard about. :cuppa
I already knew RDCs would be out on ONE day in the first week of November. But we were informed originally that RDCs were to be out on Thursday, not Wednesday as is now the case
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Post by dororum »

So does that mean the Warrington super hub is out on Wed 2 Nov but the Mail Centre over the road is out on Thursday 3 Nov?
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Why does the title of this thread say NEW DATES? Is it cos there’s new dates?
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Post by Skuse »

dororum wrote:
20 Oct 2022, 14:53
So does that mean the Warrington super hub is out on Wed 2 Nov but the Mail Centre over the road is out on Thursday 3 Nov?
Yes and because Warrington Mail centre have Network (WAVOC) attached they will be out with processing and attached Distribution no problem with that as it will cause RM more disruption 🙏