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FirstPost
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VR update

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Just wondering if anyone knows of anyone that has OFFICIALLY been offered VR? Lots of hear says and rumours at my DO but nothing official, I've heard some offices haven't even been offered it yet?
ihatedogs
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Re: VR update

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Got to admit, I opened this hoping to read an actual update. 😁
Nickvilla20
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Re: VR update

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6 are going in my office and 4 have accepted already. Seems to be getting done on seniority a few who applied turned it down so it seems they are just going down the list.

49 applied so no doubt there’s no shortage of takers.
seesred
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Re: VR update

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I an not expecting to hear anything until well into January. I was told by one of the senior managers that they first of all have to come up with some sort of plan for the MC going forward before they can decide who is or is not expendable. I was told by a colleague that about 300 people in the MC expressed an interest in VR, although I don't suppose all of them really want to go.
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Re: VR update

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4 going in my Office, all done on seniority.
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Re: VR update

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9 in my office not done on senoirty
Wullie10
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Re: VR update

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Can't fill vacancies. No chance.
CRIBMAD
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Re: VR update

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4 in my office all on seniority (and one long term sick) 50 applied (including me) !
Barnacle
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Re: VR update

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I actually didn’t know they could turn down a VR application. It’s odd to offer it up for volunteer’s and then say no.
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
aiden01
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Re: VR update

Post by aiden01 »

Barnacle wrote:
28 Dec 2022, 11:27
I actually didn’t know they could turn down a VR application. It’s odd to offer it up for volunteer’s and then say no.
Only so many in each function will get it otherwise be very few people left.
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Re: VR update

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bigal383 wrote:
28 Dec 2022, 08:25
9 in my office not done on senoirty
What's it done on?
wacko74
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Re: VR update

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So just as we already knew would be the case, even the modest VR packages being offered have been very heavily oversubscribed, indicating just how many people are ready and willing to leave the business if given the opportunity.

And yet the disingenuous and self-serving union will do it's best to deny those members the opportunity to leave the business by objecting to any reduction in the 6 day USO all in the name of supposedly ''protecting the service and preserving jobs''

We all know the union's real reason is they want RM to remain a lumbering, inefficient, labour intensive operation committed to offering a pointless and archaic 6 day letters USO because it doesn't want to see a reduction in it's own gravy train income from membership subs.
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Re: VR update

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wacko74 wrote:
28 Dec 2022, 15:16
So just as we already knew would be the case, even the modest VR packages being offered have been very heavily oversubscribed, indicating just how many people are ready and willing to leave the business if given the opportunity.

And yet the disingenuous and self-serving union will do it's best to deny those members the opportunity to leave the business by objecting to any reduction in the 6 day USO all in the name of supposedly ''protecting the service and preserving jobs''

We all know the union's real reason is they want RM to remain a lumbering, inefficient, labour intensive operation committed to offering a pointless and archaic 6 day letters USO because it doesn't want to see a reduction in it's own gravy train income from membership subs.
Is it up to the CWU to decide who gets to take VR?

Don’t see how the two are connected or why you are at all bothered by any of it.
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
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Re: VR update

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wacko74 wrote:
28 Dec 2022, 15:16
So just as we already knew would be the case, even the modest VR packages being offered have been very heavily oversubscribed, indicating just how many people are ready and willing to leave the business if given the opportunity.

And yet the disingenuous and self-serving union will do it's best to deny those members the opportunity to leave the business by objecting to any reduction in the 6 day USO all in the name of supposedly ''protecting the service and preserving jobs''

We all know the union's real reason is they want RM to remain a lumbering, inefficient, labour intensive operation committed to offering a pointless and archaic 6 day letters USO because it doesn't want to see a reduction in it's own gravy train income from membership subs.
I’m curious. Why do You bother to come on here? If someone wants EVR the union can’t stop it. If it’s available and right for them they will get it surely?
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Wullie10
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Re: VR update

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wacko74 wrote:
28 Dec 2022, 15:16
So just as we already knew would be the case, even the modest VR packages being offered have been very heavily oversubscribed, indicating just how many people are ready and willing to leave the business if given the opportunity.

And yet the disingenuous and self-serving union will do it's best to deny those members the opportunity to leave the business by objecting to any reduction in the 6 day USO all in the name of supposedly ''protecting the service and preserving jobs''

We all know the union's real reason is they want RM to remain a lumbering, inefficient, labour intensive operation committed to offering a pointless and archaic 6 day letters USO because it doesn't want to see a reduction in it's own gravy train income from membership subs.
I worked that out ten years ago. No postman wants to work Saturday. Should have been scrapped years ago but we were told it was to secure your job. Now they want Sunday working 😂. We know it was to protect union membership numbers. Kept working Saturdays all those years while any new entrant was part time.