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I don't understand....

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norris9
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I don't understand....

Post by norris9 »

So Royal Mail are....

1. Advertising and signing up people on lower pay and worse terms and conditions.

2. Signing workers up to be paid off redundancy money so they can bring in more of this cheap labour.

3. Did I also hear right that at some depots people have been let go without redundancy pay?


But Dave Ward keeps saying 'we can win this fight, we can't accept these changes'....

well....the changes are happening right in front of you. So what the heck does Dave even mean!?!? I don't understand.
Binsey
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Post by Binsey »

Indeed all Functions are having Full Revisions.

Apparently the CWU are being “ Consulted “..
TopperGas
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Re: I don't understand....

Post by TopperGas »

norris9 wrote:
24 Nov 2022, 18:15
So Royal Mail are....

1. Advertising and signing up people on lower pay and worse terms and conditions.

2. Signing workers up to be paid off redundancy money so they can bring in more of this cheap labour.

3. Did I also hear right that at some depots people have been let go without redundancy pay?


But Dave Ward keeps saying 'we can win this fight, we can't accept these changes'....

well....the changes are happening right in front of you. So what the heck does Dave even mean!?!? I don't understand.
If would be nice to know what "winning" actually looks like, DW now suggesting the pay offer is almost in the right ball park (not sure we all agree?), I'm sensing now if RM agree to no compulsory redundancies and tweak the offer slightly in our favour the CWU will suggest it should be accepted.
bensonhedge
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Post by bensonhedge »

Keep fighting the network will be clogged
Tom71
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Re: I don't understand....

Post by Tom71 »

norris9 wrote:
24 Nov 2022, 18:15
So Royal Mail are....

1. Advertising and signing up people on lower pay and worse terms and conditions.

2. Signing workers up to be paid off redundancy money so they can bring in more of this cheap labour.

3. Did I also hear right that at some depots people have been let go without redundancy pay?


But Dave Ward keeps saying 'we can win this fight, we can't accept these changes'....

well....the changes are happening right in front of you. So what the heck does Dave even mean!?!? I don't understand.
I am on the way to work. That's how I see it. I don't care what others are going to say.
chickenwittle
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Post by chickenwittle »

Tom71 wrote:
24 Nov 2022, 19:02
norris9 wrote:
24 Nov 2022, 18:15
So Royal Mail are....

1. Advertising and signing up people on lower pay and worse terms and conditions.

2. Signing workers up to be paid off redundancy money so they can bring in more of this cheap labour.

3. Did I also hear right that at some depots people have been let go without redundancy pay?


But Dave Ward keeps saying 'we can win this fight, we can't accept these changes'....

well....the changes are happening right in front of you. So what the heck does Dave even mean!?!? I don't understand.
I am on the way to work. That's how I see it. I don't care what others are going to say.
Well you obviously do because your on here looking for attention 😂
Acca Dacca
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Post by Acca Dacca »

Number 3 cannot be true unless was a fixed term contract not renewed
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
SMS1969
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Post by SMS1969 »

Acca Dacca wrote:
24 Nov 2022, 19:25
Number 3 cannot be true unless was a fixed term contract not renewed
What about if they’ve worked at RM for less than two years?
freespeech
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Post by freespeech »

Acca Dacca wrote:
24 Nov 2022, 19:25
Number 3 cannot be true unless was a fixed term contract not renewed
.......or employed for less than two years. In that case no redundancy is due.
redlen
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Post by redlen »

freespeech wrote:
24 Nov 2022, 19:43
Acca Dacca wrote:
24 Nov 2022, 19:25
Number 3 cannot be true unless was a fixed term contract not renewed
.......or employed for less than two years. In that case no redundancy is due.
You will be entitled to the three months notice contained within your contract of employment if Royal Mail are making you redundant, though they could make you work your notice period. That is if they have not alredy changed that for new starters ?
CRIBMAD
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Re: I don't understand....

Post by CRIBMAD »

Tom71 wrote:
24 Nov 2022, 19:02
norris9 wrote:
24 Nov 2022, 18:15
So Royal Mail are....

1. Advertising and signing up people on lower pay and worse terms and conditions.

2. Signing workers up to be paid off redundancy money so they can bring in more of this cheap labour.

3. Did I also hear right that at some depots people have been let go without redundancy pay?


But Dave Ward keeps saying 'we can win this fight, we can't accept these changes'....

well....the changes are happening right in front of you. So what the heck does Dave even mean!?!? I don't understand.
I am on the way to work. That's how I see it. I don't care what others are going to say.
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rambo1
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Re: I don't understand....

Post by rambo1 »

TopperGas wrote:
24 Nov 2022, 18:30
norris9 wrote:
24 Nov 2022, 18:15
So Royal Mail are....

1. Advertising and signing up people on lower pay and worse terms and conditions.

2. Signing workers up to be paid off redundancy money so they can bring in more of this cheap labour.

3. Did I also hear right that at some depots people have been let go without redundancy pay?


But Dave Ward keeps saying 'we can win this fight, we can't accept these changes'....

well....the changes are happening right in front of you. So what the heck does Dave even mean!?!? I don't understand.
If would be nice to know what "winning" actually looks like, DW now suggesting the pay offer is almost in the right ball park (not sure we all agree?), I'm sensing now if RM agree to no compulsory redundancies and tweak the offer slightly in our favour the CWU will suggest it should be accepted.
Think he said 9% was in the ballpark if it was no strings and backdated. May be wrong?