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Called a SCAB today

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Called a SCAB today

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I was called a scab today for working my rest day and then doing a whole extra duty for six hours overtime, this person hasn't been on the picket line once but I'm there everyday :wave
norris9
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Re: Called a SCAB today

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That's even worse..... you're on the picket line - so you actually fully believe in the strikes?....then you contradict yourself by doing extra work the following day after a strike?

There's no point in striking at all if you're going to do that. You might as well be coming in on the strike day.
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Re: Called a SCAB today

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If you work your rest day on the week of a strike you’ve not really been on strike have you let’s be honest you e just swapped your day off to the strike day

I thought you were always moaning you were in constant pain and tiredness anyway Norris’s, I would have thought you would have enjoyed two days not pounding the streets rather than work more
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Re: Called a SCAB today

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Don't be silly norris, whether you like it or not, in the absence of a work to rule mandate he/she's not doing anything wrong especially if that was a typical work pattern for him/her pre industrial action. I don't necessarily agree with the extent of overtime they've chosen to do, doing a whole extra duty, seems a bit excessive, but their call really. Main thing is they support the strike action.
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Re: Called a SCAB today

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Gasman11 wrote:
21 Oct 2022, 18:08
Don't be silly norris, whether you like it or not, in the absence of a work to rule mandate he's not doing anything wrong especially if that was a typical work pattern for him/her pre industrial action. I don't necessarily agree with the extent of overtime they've chosen to do, doing a whole extra duty, seems a bit excessive, but their call really. Main thing is they support the strike action.
I completely disagree

Working your day off on a strike week is changing your day off to the strike day

I won’t hear otherwise

Striking is withdrawing Labour

Working 5 days in the week when contracted to work 5 days in the week is withdrawing nothing
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
Shadedpostie
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Re: Called a SCAB today

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Not to be that guy but, you've come into work and cleared for probably less money than what you would of for actually crossing the picket line. RM if anything have completely mugged you off there.
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Re: Called a SCAB today

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Acca Dacca wrote:
21 Oct 2022, 18:10
Gasman11 wrote:
21 Oct 2022, 18:08
Don't be silly norris, whether you like it or not, in the absence of a work to rule mandate he's not doing anything wrong especially if that was a typical work pattern for him/her pre industrial action. I don't necessarily agree with the extent of overtime they've chosen to do, doing a whole extra duty, seems a bit excessive, but their call really. Main thing is they support the strike action.
I completely disagree

Working your day off on a strike week is changing your day off to the strike day

I won’t hear otherwise

Striking is withdrawing Labour

Working 5 days in the week when contracted to work 5 days in the week is withdrawing nothing
Completely disagree, we have people in our office that have worked their day off for years. Do you expect these people to lose a days money for the strike? Then also lose a days money for work they have always worked as overtime?

There is no mandate for an overtime ban, many people have done overtime continually for years. And if people are working overtime so they can support the strike then good on them. Some don't have a safety net that can see them ok to lose a days money every week for months.
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Re: Called a SCAB today

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Acca, their 'normal' work pattern may well involve working their day off every week and doing all the overtime that their managers willing to throw at them. In the absence of a work to rule mandate CWU have advised that you should carry on performing your 'normal' work pattern. I do think it's excessive though (madness more like, ha) to be doing 2 full walks in a day, so think they should be looking to row back a bit on how much their prepared to help out the business. Point still stands though that the critical issue is that they support strike action.
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Re: Called a SCAB today

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Chitchat wrote:
21 Oct 2022, 18:18
Acca Dacca wrote:
21 Oct 2022, 18:10
Gasman11 wrote:
21 Oct 2022, 18:08
Don't be silly norris, whether you like it or not, in the absence of a work to rule mandate he's not doing anything wrong especially if that was a typical work pattern for him/her pre industrial action. I don't necessarily agree with the extent of overtime they've chosen to do, doing a whole extra duty, seems a bit excessive, but their call really. Main thing is they support the strike action.

I completely disagree

Working your day off on a strike week is changing your day off to the strike day

I won’t hear otherwise

Striking is withdrawing Labour

Working 5 days in the week when contracted to work 5 days in the week is withdrawing nothing
Completely disagree, we have people in our office that have worked their day off for years. Do you expect these people to lose a days money for the strike? Then also lose a days money for work they have always worked as overtime?

There is no mandate for an overtime ban, many people have done overtime continually for years. And if people are working overtime so they can support the strike then good on them. Some don't have a safety net that can see them ok to lose a days money every week for months.
All that’s happened is their day off is moved to the day of the strike

Everybody else loses a days pay by withdrawing their labour and those who work their rest day don’t

It’s not scabbing but it’s not really going on strike either - what are they withdrawing exactly? Contracted to work 5 days and have worked 5 days
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Re: Called a SCAB today

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Acca Dacca wrote:
21 Oct 2022, 18:24
Chitchat wrote:
21 Oct 2022, 18:18
Acca Dacca wrote:
21 Oct 2022, 18:10
Gasman11 wrote:
21 Oct 2022, 18:08
Don't be silly norris, whether you like it or not, in the absence of a work to rule mandate he's not doing anything wrong especially if that was a typical work pattern for him/her pre industrial action. I don't necessarily agree with the extent of overtime they've chosen to do, doing a whole extra duty, seems a bit excessive, but their call really. Main thing is they support the strike action.

I completely disagree

Working your day off on a strike week is changing your day off to the strike day

I won’t hear otherwise

Striking is withdrawing Labour

Working 5 days in the week when contracted to work 5 days in the week is withdrawing nothing
Completely disagree, we have people in our office that have worked their day off for years. Do you expect these people to lose a days money for the strike? Then also lose a days money for work they have always worked as overtime?

There is no mandate for an overtime ban, many people have done overtime continually for years. And if people are working overtime so they can support the strike then good on them. Some don't have a safety net that can see them ok to lose a days money every week for months.
All that’s happened is their day off is moved to the day of the strike

Everybody else loses a days pay by withdrawing their labour and those who work their rest day don’t

It’s not scabbing but it’s not really going on strike either - what are they withdrawing exactly? Contracted to work 5 days and have worked 5 days
But if you have worked your day off for years then you lose two days money that you would have normally banked.

At the end of the day as long as people withdraw their labour on a strike day that's all you can really ask. Strikes cause uncertainty which businesses don't like. It means they can't guarantee they can deliver their product or service.
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Re: Called a SCAB today

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You can’t lose what you never had

No one is contracted to work their day off every week

Most of us are contracted to work 5 days and that’s what rest day workers are working - it’s not breaking the strike but it’s not striking either in my opinion

I get your argument I really do but I’m not for changing my mind on whether I agree with it
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
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Re: Called a SCAB today

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FirstPost wrote:
21 Oct 2022, 17:58
I was called a scab today for working my rest day and then doing a whole extra duty for six hours overtime, this person hasn't been on the picket line once but I'm there everyday :wave
It’s like being back at school… wouldn’t think grown ups worked here 🙄
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Re: Called a SCAB today

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Acca Dacca wrote:
21 Oct 2022, 18:33


No one is contracted to work their day off every week
Those who have their day off as SA are.
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Re: Called a SCAB today

Post by Jen1 »

We had a similar conversation in our office

I’m on a part time contract (30hours) so I’ve always done overtime to make up my wage to an amount I can live off

I’ve averaged 20hours overtime a week for the past 3 years

20 hours pay a week, every week until???? Well that is just too much to lose

If those full timers feel that strongly about not doing overtime maybe they could stick their hands in their pockets and make it a level playing field on how much we’re all sacrificing
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Re: Called a SCAB today

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Acca Dacca wrote:
21 Oct 2022, 18:33
You can’t lose what you never had

No one is contracted to work their day off every week

Most of us are contracted to work 5 days and that’s what rest day workers are working - it’s not breaking the strike but it’s not striking either in my opinion

I get your argument I really do but I’m not for changing my mind on whether I agree with it
Of course you can lose what you never had, because you would have got it had it not been for the strikes. People who do overtime regular would lose twice is all I'm saying. And I haven't even started on part timers who under what you think would lose hundreds of pounds a week. Because lots of them flex up to full time and beyond.