LTB 268/22 - Royal Mail - Change Proposals

[POSTMAN]

https://www.cwu.org/ltb/ltb-268-22-roya ... proposals/

LTB 268/22 – Royal Mail – Change Proposals
No. 268/22

15th June 2022

Dear Colleagues,

Royal Mail – Change Proposals

Further to my Facebook update provided to Postal Branches, Representatives and members yesterday afternoon (14th June 2022). In this update reference was made to the Royal Mail Group briefing material that was in general circulation: The Face to Face Briefing Programme — Communicating the Bigger Picture and the Change Proposals the company had tabled which the Union will be discussing with Royal Mail under the terms of the Pathway to Change Agreement.

In light of today’s decision by Royal Mail Group to impose an unagreed pay increase and in order to ensure that colleagues and members have to hand the most up to date information relating to both the managers briefing material and the actual proposals the company have tabled, please find attached to this LTB the following documents:

Annex (A) Face to Face – Briefing Programme – Communicating the Bigger Picture.
Annex (B) Royal Mail Group – Change Proposals Further Details.

See link above for clean links to attachments if needed

Branches and Senior Field Officials should ensure that this LTB and associated Annexes should be circulated to all Area and Local Representatives.

Further updates will be provided to Branches, Representatives and CWU Postal Members on a regular basis

Any enquiries in relation to the content of this LTB should be addressed to the DGS(P) Department.

Yours sincerely,



Terry Pullinger
Deputy General Secretary (Postal)

Annex-A-to-LTB-268-22-Face-to-Face-Briefing-Programme-slide-deck-v3.pdf

Annex-A-to-LTB-268-22-Face-to-Face-Briefing-Programme-slide-deck-v3.pdf

[2yearpostie]

Worst one there is moving starts times by UPTO 3 hours and INCREASING delivery spans outdoor.
Sundays dont seem like to much of an issue if they only need 10-25% of the workforce on one day.

[ted_e_bear]

I love the briefing guide that the manager is supposed to read prior to spending an hour or so preparing his presentation.

Oh dear, as mentioned previously on numerous occasions they have absolutely no idea of the actual calibre of the managers at DO level, they can't have, can they ?

[iHateD2Ds]

Fxxx me they want it all!
Sunday flat rate
Flexibility to the hilt
Yes sir, No sir
Yes certainly a Victorian attitude.

[Duesouth]

Says it all really. They want a flat rate on a Sunday, even though we get quite a good rate and could be better.

Scrolling down there spreadsheet they mentioned that Royal mail pay 40% more than our competitors. Never knew our competitors deliver mail, but I know what they mean and that's complete bull.

Longs and shorts in a big office will not work. I can tell you that over the past couple of weeks when it's meant to be the quietest I've been working all my hours pretty much (37hrs). This will just be a disaster waiting to happen with people cutting off, and working loads of overtime during the summer periods then get shafted again when it comes to the darker wetter months. No thanks.

[citypostie]

They've basically made the rounds that big now that you can hardly get them done in summer and come busier times you're over every day. If they bring this in and reduce my hours to 6 or whatever over the summer I will not work a minute over and I hope everyone else does the same, the great idea would soon be scrapped when they have more failing duties during the lighter summer months than they ever did over the Xmas pressure period

[shaunman]

How can they pay us 40% more, we get around £12:50 - ££13 per hour with allowances, 40% less than this would be £7:50 - £7:80 per hour. Way less than minimum wage. Absolute tools

[aiden01]

Worst one there is moving starts times by UPTO 3 hours and INCREASING delivery spans outdoor.
Sundays dont seem like to much of an issue if they only need 10-25% of the workforce on one day.

Why are sundays not an issue if they only want to pay flat rate an if your 1 of the unfortunate 10-25% would you honestly say same thing..

[Woody Guthrie]

25% of all staff sounds okay until you realise it's probably closer to 50% of available and suitable staff.

[fb1969]

If it is compulsory, 25% of staff means working one in four Sundays if it is done fairly.
And agreeing with Woody's comment, it could well be more like one in three or even every other Sunday.

[oypostie]

It won't be done fairly as the trolley duties won't be required. It will more likely be like the parcel only Saturdays that we had during lockdown and that involved most of the drivers

[Whinealot]

Says it all really. They want a flat rate on a Sunday, even though we get quite a good rate and could be better.

Scrolling down there spreadsheet they mentioned that Royal mail pay 40% more than our competitors. Never knew our competitors deliver mail, but I know what they mean and that's complete bull.

Longs and shorts in a big office will not work. I can tell you that over the past couple of weeks when it's meant to be the quietest I've been working all my hours pretty much (37hrs). This will just be a disaster waiting to happen with people cutting off, and working loads of overtime during the summer periods then get shafted again when it comes to the darker wetter months. No thanks.

Correct we don’t have a direct competitor! Whistl and uk mail get us to do there unprofitable dirty work via DSA. Yet more crap used as a reason to justify the we are 40% overpaid position. Here’s my question if we are 40% overpaid then what a about Super Si and the top team? No doubt they will be taking a pay cut like we have to now it seems, and obviously their bonuses will be stopped to as we need to cut costs!

[k979aaa]

Says it all really. They want a flat rate on a Sunday, even though we get quite a good rate and could be better.

Scrolling down there spreadsheet they mentioned that Royal mail pay 40% more than our competitors. Never knew our competitors deliver mail, but I know what they mean and that's complete bull.

Longs and shorts in a big office will not work. I can tell you that over the past couple of weeks when it's meant to be the quietest I've been working all my hours pretty much (37hrs). This will just be a disaster waiting to happen with people cutting off, and working loads of overtime during the summer periods then get shafted again when it comes to the darker wetter months. No thanks.

Correct we don’t have a direct competitor! Whistl and uk mail get us to do there unprofitable dirty work via DSA. Yet more crap used as a reason to justify the we are 40% overpaid position. Here’s my question if we are 40% overpaid then what a about Super Si and the top team? No doubt they will be taking a pay cut like we have to now it seems, and obviously their bonuses will be stopped to as we need to cut costs!

What the CEO he is underpaid he is forced to rob food banks and can only afford to get to work 3 days of the week and claim Universal Credit of £142,000 a year!