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LTB 258/23 - UNAGREED EXTENSION OF MY PERFORMANCE APP

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theotherone
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Valentina@1 wrote:
19 Oct 2023, 19:13
Where’s Martin Walsh disappeared to?…….that guy is the biggest turn coat.
Harps on about how CWU moved company,”ok mate”,this mob are facilitating RM in turning us into the gig economy parcel company that they were adamant,we would fight against,
It’s happening right before our eyes,and our union are clearly onboard with it😡😡😡😡😡😡
On a campaign to become DGSP.
Valentina@1
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Post by Valentina@1 »

God help us
lobsterhands
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Can’t wait to see on this performance app how they are going to compare staff who are 18 years old with staff who are in their twilight years, staff who are 5 feet tall with staff who are 6 feet tall, staff who are physically fit with staff who aren’t…. the list goes on and on.

Unfairness, favouring of individuals, bullying, ageism, yet again the list could go on on.

Asked Rep about it and he said the information gained on any individual cannot be used against them but to help them… hmmmmm … somehow I can’t see that.
LouBarlow
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Post by LouBarlow »

lobsterhands wrote:
21 Oct 2023, 16:02
Can’t wait to see on this performance app how they are going to compare staff who are 18 years old with staff who are in their twilight years, staff who are 5 feet tall with staff who are 6 feet tall, staff who are physically fit with staff who aren’t…. the list goes on and on.

Unfairness, favouring of individuals, bullying, ageism, yet again the list could go on on.

Asked Rep about it and he said the information gained on any individual cannot be used against them but to help them… hmmmmm … somehow I can’t see that.
Despite it entirely contravening employment law you cannot see it? Royal Mail are not able to discriminate against people the way you seem to think.
lobsterhands
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Post by lobsterhands »

I do hope your correct but stuff I’ve seen over the years from managers makes me doubt it.
dazzler123
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Post by dazzler123 »

lobsterhands wrote:
21 Oct 2023, 16:02
Can’t wait to see on this performance app how they are going to compare staff who are 18 years old with staff who are in their twilight years, staff who are 5 feet tall with staff who are 6 feet tall, staff who are physically fit with staff who aren’t…. the list goes on and on.

Unfairness, favouring of individuals, bullying, ageism, yet again the list could go on on.

Asked Rep about it and he said the information gained on any individual cannot be used against them but to help them… hmmmmm … somehow I can’t see that.
help being the polite term for bully, shame and intimidate
Philbag70
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Post by Philbag70 »

dazzler123 wrote:
21 Oct 2023, 16:24
lobsterhands wrote:
21 Oct 2023, 16:02
Can’t wait to see on this performance app how they are going to compare staff who are 18 years old with staff who are in their twilight years, staff who are 5 feet tall with staff who are 6 feet tall, staff who are physically fit with staff who aren’t…. the list goes on and on.

Unfairness, favouring of individuals, bullying, ageism, yet again the list could go on on.

Asked Rep about it and he said the information gained on any individual cannot be used against them but to help them… hmmmmm … somehow I can’t see that.
help being the polite term for bully, shame and intimidate
Don't forget the discrimination, too!
Rommagic
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Post by Rommagic »

How can they track performance when we doing DPR instead of letters?.
Mr Rush
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Post by Mr Rush »

LouBarlow wrote:
21 Oct 2023, 16:11
Despite it entirely contravening employment law you cannot see it? Royal Mail are not able to discriminate against people the way you seem to think.
They will if they think they can get away with it. If the cost of getting loyal- I mean legacy staff off the payroll is a couple of tribunal losses then they'll take the lesser hit. Does this strike you as a company that feels inhibited by the strong hand of the law on its shoulder?
The machine stops.
TopperGas
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Post by TopperGas »

Rommagic wrote:
21 Oct 2023, 18:16
How can they track performance when we doing DPR instead of letters?.
First time deliveries and Complaints only really apply to parcels?
LouBarlow
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Post by LouBarlow »

Mr Rush wrote:
21 Oct 2023, 22:47
LouBarlow wrote:
21 Oct 2023, 16:11
Despite it entirely contravening employment law you cannot see it? Royal Mail are not able to discriminate against people the way you seem to think.
They will if they think they can get away with it. If the cost of getting loyal- I mean legacy staff off the payroll is a couple of tribunal losses then they'll take the lesser hit. Does this strike you as a company that feels inhibited by the strong hand of the law on its shoulder?
Then staff need to toughen up and call them out on it. This is the very reason we still need strong union support, and why the whinging on this site about them is unhelpful. And again, they may want to replace all of us with workers on these new shitty contracts, but I think the penny has dropped and they realise that nobody actually wants to work for RM any more, when you can get a job elsewhere with better terms easily enough.

You can only push staff so far, and relying on number crunching, as RM have done for years now, is going to eventually come to a head. We need to appreciate the power we still have in the workplace. They aren’t going to make money for shareholders without workers to actually do the work.
ted_e_bear
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Post by ted_e_bear »

TopperGas wrote:
21 Oct 2023, 23:52
Rommagic wrote:
21 Oct 2023, 18:16
How can they track performance when we doing DPR instead of letters?.
First time deliveries and Complaints only really apply to parcels?
Was going to say that myself but also add in your Trimble report, no chance of quickly nipping from one parcel to the next, if you drive any brisker or more erratic than a funeral procession then they'll have you, and don't even think about speeding.
qwerty2
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Post by qwerty2 »

lobsterhands wrote:
21 Oct 2023, 16:02
Can’t wait to see on this performance app how they are going to compare staff who are 18 years old with staff who are in their twilight years, staff who are 5 feet tall with staff who are 6 feet tall, staff who are physically fit with staff who aren’t…. the list goes on and on.

Unfairness, favouring of individuals, bullying, ageism, yet again the list could go on on.

Asked Rep about it and he said the information gained on any individual cannot be used against them but to help them… hmmmmm … somehow I can’t see that.
Also everyone knows (apart from the managers)all rounds are different - some get double the parcels then others