And your management mates are doing a great job too. Well respected and admired by all the workers at the coal face.
My management mates? I don’t pay a weekly subscription to them. I do what they ask me to do in the time I’m getting paid for. If they ask too much I ask for more wages.
Stress free and easy.
by doing what managers are asking you to do makes you complicit in helping to destroy the business. Some people just don't get this...
If it’s a ‘reasonable request’ you don’t really have much say in it.
If they agree to pay me extra for doing extra I’ll normally do it.
A lot of the damages have been done in many offices. Most of us now have duties that are far too long and more people will go on sick because of the added stress.
I don't buy into the old "You have a start and finish time" because although it's true it doesn't avoid the confrontation with the manager every single working day to tell them you will be leaving a row or two. It's also not great when the minority reply with "Well change your job then!!". A lot of us are in a position where we can't just change our job straight away due to age etc.
The Union should also insist that any executive action changes that have already happened in the last few months should be reversed.
Just man up, I know this sounds harsh, but there really shouldn't be conflict. You have a right to finish on time. You do not need a reason. If you think you will not be able to, then inform your lino at the earliest possible moment and ask how do you want me to proceed? The more you do it the easier it will be. Just stay chilled. It really is a much less stressful way to work. Always err on the side of caution, don't put yourself under stress by taking too much. If you get a day where everything is going your way on delivery, just slow your pace a bit on the last loop.
A lot of the damages have been done in many offices. Most of us now have duties that are far too long and more people will go on sick because of the added stress.
I don't buy into the old "You have a start and finish time" because although it's true it doesn't avoid the confrontation with the manager every single working day to tell them you will be leaving a row or two. It's also not great when the minority reply with "Well change your job then!!". A lot of us are in a position where we can't just change our job straight away due to age etc.
The Union should also insist that any executive action changes that have already happened in the last few months should be reversed.
Just man up, I know this sounds harsh, but there really shouldn't be conflict. You have a right to finish on time. You do not need a reason. If you think you will not be able to, then inform your lino at the earliest possible moment and ask how do you want me to proceed? The more you do it the easier it will be. Just stay chilled. It really is a much less stressful way to work. Always err on the side of caution, don't put yourself under stress by taking too much. If you get a day where everything is going your way on delivery, just slow your pace a bit on the last loop.
I get what your saying but not everyone feels comfortable 'manning up'. Some of the guy's that have been employed only a few months should not even be put in that position to actually speak to their lino everyday to tell them they cannot complete. Not only that, you are juggling your day,everyday to then take out the double mail then leave other loops to accommodate.
You also need to remember a lot of linos arn't placid and will question you everyday on why you are leaving loops. A few years ago walks were generally achievable so you never needed to go down this route but managers nowadays are looking for reasons to get rid of people especially on the 'old contract' and having to have this confrontation on a daily basis will only feed them ammunition to find some excuse to get rid of you eventually. There is a girl at our place being done for wilful delay due to bringing back a small handful of letters and she is one of the ones that has these daily conversations with the lino about not completing.
They have found reasons before and got away with it. If you stay under the radar nowadays the better it is.
So it's not about manning up at all. You are right, there shouldn't be a conflict but there generally is.
A lot of the damages have been done in many offices. Most of us now have duties that are far too long and more people will go on sick because of the added stress.
I don't buy into the old "You have a start and finish time" because although it's true it doesn't avoid the confrontation with the manager every single working day to tell them you will be leaving a row or two. It's also not great when the minority reply with "Well change your job then!!". A lot of us are in a position where we can't just change our job straight away due to age etc.
The Union should also insist that any executive action changes that have already happened in the last few months should be reversed.
Just man up, I know this sounds harsh, but there really shouldn't be conflict. You have a right to finish on time. You do not need a reason. If you think you will not be able to, then inform your lino at the earliest possible moment and ask how do you want me to proceed? The more you do it the easier it will be. Just stay chilled. It really is a much less stressful way to work. Always err on the side of caution, don't put yourself under stress by taking too much. If you get a day where everything is going your way on delivery, just slow your pace a bit on the last loop.
Feel like people don't realise they can't touch you as long as they are doing the job correctly and whatever threats they are giving you are empty. Tried do it to me once when first started and hit me with the usual "so and so does it in this time" but couldn't do anything cuz I practically invited them round to see whether I was effective enough for the job and asked what time does the person come in at. They soon backed off.
Worked many other jobs that treat you a whole lot worse than what these jokers do but yet people completely bend over backwards for them to avoid the slightest bit of confrontation.
The business knows that if we all were to suddenly work to rule, they'd be completely f****d cuz it's run purely on overtime and goodwill. Hence as well why they have drummed up new contracts that got no paid breaks in there, on way less pay than us and lower hours till recently. Cuz you have guys working hours for nothing in the morning and skipping out on their breaks, they know what's happening so they are like, "why on earth should we pay for breaks and such if they are just going to work for free? This is great!"
One change that will blow up in their faces I reckon is the annualised hours and banking them since people will stop coming in early for definite cuz be no payoff at that point Part of me is hoping that one does come in but same time why in the hell should I and all the others have to suffer over a bunch of mugs?
The best side for all now is a half and half agreement they get half of what they want and we get half of we want and a pay rise but the pay rise will be going forward ie no back pay. Thing is this has gone on too long we need an agreement but not just for the sake of an agreement! We need change but progressive change and we need trust and the only way I can see that is by abiding by and reinstating passed agreements that they broke last year! And then a structure of engagement of both sides of how this can work. Also an end to the BONUS CULTURE BY MANAGEMENT Only these proposals will end this dispute.
Think RM have already got most of what they wanted
A lot of the damages have been done in many offices. Most of us now have duties that are far too long and more people will go on sick because of the added stress.
I don't buy into the old "You have a start and finish time" because although it's true it doesn't avoid the confrontation with the manager every single working day to tell them you will be leaving a row or two. It's also not great when the minority reply with "Well change your job then!!". A lot of us are in a position where we can't just change our job straight away due to age etc.
The Union should also insist that any executive action changes that have already happened in the last few months should be reversed.
Just man up, I know this sounds harsh, but there really shouldn't be conflict. You have a right to finish on time. You do not need a reason. If you think you will not be able to, then inform your lino at the earliest possible moment and ask how do you want me to proceed? The more you do it the easier it will be. Just stay chilled. It really is a much less stressful way to work. Always err on the side of caution, don't put yourself under stress by taking too much. If you get a day where everything is going your way on delivery, just slow your pace a bit on the last loop.
This is all well and good whilst you have a finish time. When the finish times go you will be expected to complete, the justification being shoebox sized parcels and above being taken off. The next justification will be all prep being done in mail centres (i.e. no prep in Delivery offices) Bringing mail back will be conducted and we were told last week 5 x strikes and you are out (conducted, complaints, etc...). So you won't stay chilled when you are out of a job. There really shouldn't be conflict but the bloodbath is coming. They are on a union destroying, letter/USO ridding mission. Why did they start this before last Xmas, the most profitable part of the year? Why not wait until the new year of 2023? An average 12 month share price is needed for takeover.
Kretinsky keeps upping his stake, now at 24%, at 1% a time! He's only 6% away from takeover and all he wants is GLS and a gig-style one parcel group. Why do you think they spent billions on these parcel hubs? For the USO? Bollox! They want rid of as many full time workers as possible to be replaced by self-employed owner drivers and agency workers with no T&C's whatsoever!. The CDC pension scheme will be shelved and a minimum NEST pension brought in. THE ONLY WAY TO STOP THIS FUTURE IS FOR THE UNION TO STRIKE AND FORCE ADMINISTRATION TO SAVE OUR JOBS!!
A lot of the damages have been done in many offices. Most of us now have duties that are far too long and more people will go on sick because of the added stress.
I don't buy into the old "You have a start and finish time" because although it's true it doesn't avoid the confrontation with the manager every single working day to tell them you will be leaving a row or two. It's also not great when the minority reply with "Well change your job then!!". A lot of us are in a position where we can't just change our job straight away due to age etc.
The Union should also insist that any executive action changes that have already happened in the last few months should be reversed.
Just man up, I know this sounds harsh, but there really shouldn't be conflict. You have a right to finish on time. You do not need a reason. If you think you will not be able to, then inform your lino at the earliest possible moment and ask how do you want me to proceed? The more you do it the easier it will be. Just stay chilled. It really is a much less stressful way to work. Always err on the side of caution, don't put yourself under stress by taking too much. If you get a day where everything is going your way on delivery, just slow your pace a bit on the last loop.
This is all well and good whilst you have a finish time. When the finish times go you will be expected to complete, the justification being shoebox sized parcels and above being taken off. The next justification will be all prep being done in mail centres (i.e. no prep in Delivery offices) Bringing mail back will be conducted and we were told last week 5 x strikes and you are out (conducted, complaints, etc...). So you won't stay chilled when you are out of a job. There really shouldn't be conflict but the bloodbath is coming. They are on a union destroying, letter/USO ridding mission. Why did they start this before last Xmas, the most profitable part of the year? Why not wait until the new year of 2023? An average 12 month share price is needed for takeover.
Kretinsky keeps upping his stake, now at 24%, at 1% a time! He's only 6% away from takeover and all he wants is GLS and a gig-style one parcel group. Why do you think they spent billions on these parcel hubs? For the USO? Bollox! They want rid of as many full time workers as possible to be replaced by self-employed owner drivers and agency workers with no T&C's whatsoever!. The CDC pension scheme will be shelved and a minimum NEST pension brought in. THE ONLY WAY TO STOP THIS FUTURE IS FOR THE UNION TO STRIKE AND FORCE ADMINISTRATION TO SAVE OUR JOBS!!
Commit to deliver can never be agreed as to the other stuff negotiation is the best way for all this one item is NON Negotiable if they persist with this their can be nothing but Industrial Action and all that flows from it!
Kretinsky is at 25%.
If we knew what his end game was we would all be rich.
How will administration save our jobs?
Government is required to provide a USO for letters
The USO will be changed by an act of parliament the USO is not just the delivery of letters but that of the access providers ie TNT, UK POST ,UK MAIL, WHISTLE POST all these companies have creamed the profit off the letters side while never venturing into providing competition as they gain while we lose!
A lot of the damages have been done in many offices. Most of us now have duties that are far too long and more people will go on sick because of the added stress.
I don't buy into the old "You have a start and finish time" because although it's true it doesn't avoid the confrontation with the manager every single working day to tell them you will be leaving a row or two. It's also not great when the minority reply with "Well change your job then!!". A lot of us are in a position where we can't just change our job straight away due to age etc.
The Union should also insist that any executive action changes that have already happened in the last few months should be reversed.
Just man up, I know this sounds harsh, but there really shouldn't be conflict. You have a right to finish on time. You do not need a reason. If you think you will not be able to, then inform your lino at the earliest possible moment and ask how do you want me to proceed? The more you do it the easier it will be. Just stay chilled. It really is a much less stressful way to work. Always err on the side of caution, don't put yourself under stress by taking too much. If you get a day where everything is going your way on delivery, just slow your pace a bit on the last loop.
This is all well and good whilst you have a finish time. When the finish times go you will be expected to complete, the justification being shoebox sized parcels and above being taken off. The next justification will be all prep being done in mail centres (i.e. no prep in Delivery offices) Bringing mail back will be conducted and we were told last week 5 x strikes and you are out (conducted, complaints, etc...). So you won't stay chilled when you are out of a job. There really shouldn't be conflict but the bloodbath is coming. They are on a union destroying, letter/USO ridding mission. Why did they start this before last Xmas, the most profitable part of the year? Why not wait until the new year of 2023? An average 12 month share price is needed for takeover.
Kretinsky keeps upping his stake, now at 24%, at 1% a time! He's only 6% away from takeover and all he wants is GLS and a gig-style one parcel group. Why do you think they spent billions on these parcel hubs? For the USO? Bollox! They want rid of as many full time workers as possible to be replaced by self-employed owner drivers and agency workers with no T&C's whatsoever!. The CDC pension scheme will be shelved and a minimum NEST pension brought in. THE ONLY WAY TO STOP THIS FUTURE IS FOR THE UNION TO STRIKE AND FORCE ADMINISTRATION TO SAVE OUR JOBS!!
Commit to deliver can never be agreed as to the other stuff negotiation is the best way for all this one item is NON Negotiable if they persist with this their can be nothing but Industrial Action and all that flows from it!
That's the bloody point! Negotiations are over! STRIKING is the only way!
Kretinsky is at 25%.
If we knew what his end game was we would all be rich.
How will administration save our jobs?
Government is required to provide a USO for letters
The USO will be changed by an act of parliament the USO is not just the delivery of letters but that of the access providers ie TNT, UK POST ,UK MAIL, WHISTLE POST all these companies have creamed the profit off the letters side while never venturing into providing competition as they gain while we lose!
Kretinsky is at 25%.
If we knew what his end game was we would all be rich.
How will administration save our jobs?
Government is required to provide a USO for letters
The USO will be changed by an act of parliament the USO is not just the delivery of letters but that of the access providers ie TNT, UK POST ,UK MAIL, WHISTLE POST all these companies have creamed the profit off the letters side while never venturing into providing competition as they gain while we lose!
Quite a good point. There are now hundreds of these direct stream access companies who process the mail that we used to do and are taking away the potential profits that we used to make on letters.
The government could change the legislation to make letters more profitable for the business but all Royal Mail are interested in is watering down the USO and making a profit by reducing the service.
On the face of it, shareholder value is the dumbest idea in the world.
know what's happening so they are like, "why on earth should we pay for breaks and such if they are just going to work for free? This is great!"
Part of me is hoping that one does come in but same time why in the hell should I and all the others have to suffer over a bunch of mugs?
