We had the same situation in our branch some years back, and the question was pushed up to HQ.
"Forget it" was the answer, "it's never going to happen".
Members have the right to strike/not strike and can't be penalised for either decision.
We had the same situation in our branch some years back, and the question was pushed up to HQ.
This is what has happened with union members crossing the picket line in the rail disbutes. I imagine it is lifetime but whether or not you can join another union would be down to that particular union.clashcityrocker wrote: ↑21 Aug 2022, 06:56Would it be a lifetime ban or would they be allowed to rejoin at any point?
What criteria would you use? What if they wanted to join a different union?
Having read your comment again I realise you mean non of the older staff want the hassle of being a Unit Rep.Acca Dacca wrote: ↑21 Aug 2022, 09:00I know a union rep from that modern generation youve just described because none of your generation in the office want the hassle
Stop generalising - strikebreakers come in all shapes and sizes
This post is completely at odds with the previous one.Dorset Plodder wrote: ↑21 Aug 2022, 11:05Having read your comment again I realise you mean non of the older staff want the hassle of being a Unit Rep.Acca Dacca wrote: ↑21 Aug 2022, 09:00I know a union rep from that modern generation youve just described because none of your generation in the office want the hassle
Stop generalising - strikebreakers come in all shapes and sizes
You're quite right strike breakers do come in all shapes and sizes AD, the guys that particularly upset me could be classed as some of the "OLD & bold".![]()
My comment was in deed a generalisation, and not specifically aimed at all strike breakers but life in general. Remember the term "Millenials" is people born 1981-1996 (making them 25-40). A lot of our Youngsters are quite keen to support the Union, which is refreshing, because the Unit Rep has been busy chatting to them and explaining how the changes might effect them.![]()
Apologises for being confusing, or contradictory..... I'll get my coat.
Pensioners probably went on strike far more than present days workers have ever done, I doubt they thought that way when they were on strike.Kenfandango wrote: ↑21 Aug 2022, 14:13Most of the public I've spoken to have been very supportive of the strikes.
Then a few pensioners have told me that we don't know how easy we've got it, how it's "just greed to ask for more," and that "if the money isn't there they can't pay you."
I've been on a rural route to a well off village that's been largely unchanged in 100 years, so these particular pensioners may have only ever seen a picket line as the accompanying picture in a Daily Mail article about "Union barons inflicting their leftist propaganda on people"
unfortunately for me im in the 40-60 age range but my finances ar in the 25-40 lolWoody Guthrie wrote: ↑21 Aug 2022, 19:31It's really just a simple matter of priority change as you get older and move through different stages of life.
18-25 year olds are far more likely to protest or strike because they have f**k all to lose and mostly still have the support of their parents.
25-40 year olds have young families to feed and are more likely to worry about the immediate implications of striking on their finances than what might happen latet.
40-60 year olds are more financially secure and probably more likely to be worried about working conditions and their ability to continue to do the job than losing a few days pay.
Pensioners. it's well known that people become more consevative and risk averse as they get older, less tolerant of anything that might change the status quo and more protective of their lifestyle.
This isn't about boomers or Gen X or Y or millennials being more reactionary or radical, it's just how all people progress through the different challenges life throws up.
Everyone around my age in the office, I’m 30 all support the union, and in a big way. The generalisations are insulting, and there’s far worse insults that can be thrown at the boomer generation to be honest.Dorset Plodder wrote: ↑21 Aug 2022, 11:05Having read your comment again I realise you mean non of the older staff want the hassle of being a Unit Rep.Acca Dacca wrote: ↑21 Aug 2022, 09:00I know a union rep from that modern generation youve just described because none of your generation in the office want the hassle
Stop generalising - strikebreakers come in all shapes and sizes
You're quite right strike breakers do come in all shapes and sizes AD, the guys that particularly upset me could be classed as some of the "OLD & bold".![]()
My comment was in deed a generalisation, and not specifically aimed at all strike breakers but life in general. Remember the term "Millenials" is people born 1981-1996 (making them 25-40). A lot of our Youngsters are quite keen to support the Union, which is refreshing, because the Unit Rep has been busy chatting to them and explaining how the changes might effect them.![]()
Don’t get your coat mate your posts are the nicest on the eyes to readDorset Plodder wrote: ↑21 Aug 2022, 11:23Apologises for being confusing, or contradictory..... I'll get my coat.![]()
I think you're wrong. No-one becomes more conservative with age, you are who you are.Woody Guthrie wrote: ↑21 Aug 2022, 19:31It's really just a simple matter of priority change as you get older and move through different stages of life.
18-25 year olds are far more likely to protest or strike because they have f**k all to lose and mostly still have the support of their parents.
25-40 year olds have young families to feed and are more likely to worry about the immediate implications of striking on their finances than what might happen latet.
40-60 year olds are more financially secure and probably more likely to be worried about working conditions and their ability to continue to do the job than losing a few days pay.
Pensioners. it's well known that people become more consevative and risk averse as they get older, less tolerant of anything that might change the status quo and more protective of their lifestyle.
This isn't about boomers or Gen X or Y or millennials being more reactionary or radical, it's just how all people progress through the different challenges life throws up.