Payrise

[SpacePhoenix]

I've never know DOMs to accept the fact that they need to create another duty (to ease the workload on several surrounding duties) and actually increase the number of staff.

My gut feeling is that if they did, it'd get vetoed by their boss

[charlatans]

This is already no fun and i get paid a lot. We are going to be in a lot of trouble without an inflation matching payrise at the least. Give the sww a miss and get us cash please union.

[blacov]

How much a week we need to be paid after tax to be still absolutely comfortable given soaring living costs and inflation? So no pay rise could be justified.

Let’s come up with one figure for people in the north west and one for those in the south east. I know there are many variables still. My point is everybody is trying convince us how well paid we are but I can see that money is disappearing from my bank account a lot quicker nowadays. I get the benefit of London allowance but money is coming and going. This is coming from someone living pretty moderately.

My answers: north west should be a minimum of £500 net and south east £600 (excluding central London)

What’s your opinion?

[FirstPost]

So inflation is now at 5.6% and bank of england saying they expect it to hit 7% by spring.

We'll get 4% if we're lucky, which is half of what we should be getting.

8% may sound astronomical to some, but by the time April comes and inflation is at 7% it's only 1% above...

[FirstPost]

How much a week we need to be paid after tax to be still absolutely comfortable given soaring living costs and inflation? So no pay rise could be justified.

Let’s come up with one figure for people in the north west and one for those in the south east. I know there are many variables still. My point is everybody is trying convince us how well paid we are but I can see that money is disappearing from my bank account a lot quicker nowadays. I get the benefit of London allowance but money is coming and going. This is coming from someone living pretty moderately.

My answers: north west should be a minimum of £500 net and south east £600 (excluding central London)

What’s your opinion?

£600 net a week for the south east? That's £150 more a week than it is now!

[blacov]

£600 a week net would mean Royal Mail could rightly say we are well paid and can do without a pay rise. That's what I am trying to say where's in the north-west it should be in my opinion £500 a week net.

[heapsy]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't London Weighting flow through to overtime? Living in the NW myself, I can honestly say we should be on more here, but it isn't going to happen, even though many can't afford to live in the area. Nor is the governments leveling up, it's just bull s**t tbh.

[yubin282]

The unions policy for the April Pay Rise is the following :

1. A pay rise of inflation or above.

2. 35 hour gross working week without loss to pay meaning the final 2 hours off the working week.

3. An increase in overtime rates.

4. A commitment to more 3,4 day working.

Of course no pay increase comes without strings and that is going to be the negotiation!

Why !
CWU have given up so much we will have no terms left in a few years...same old same old and ever thus shall be
There has to be a line in the sand when you say no more

Just softening us up as per usual. Pay rise should match inflation. No need for any strings attached. Just use massive profits made over last couple of years.

It comes with strings if you allow to to come with strings.

[blacov]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't London Weighting flow through to overtime? Living in the NW myself, I can honestly say we should be on more here, but it isn't going to happen, even though many can't afford to live in the area. Nor is the governments leveling up, it's just bull s**t tbh.

It doesn't flow to any overtime. Unless you are part timer I believe and your OT will take you up to full time hours from where it stops and then the usual lower rate kicks in after 10h OT over full time hours. Overtime in London gets paid at a significantly lower rate.

[1on4]

£600 a week net would mean Royal Mail could rightly say we are well paid and can do without a pay rise. That's what I am trying to say where's in the north-west it should be in my opinion £500 a week net.

You honestly think a postman, who needs no experience and no qualifications, should get paid the same as a degree qualified social worker with 10+ years experience?

[eastie]

I live in the south and we get no bonuses like London

[blacov]

£600 a week net would mean Royal Mail could rightly say we are well paid and can do without a pay rise. That's what I am trying to say where's in the north-west it should be in my opinion £500 a week net.

You honestly think a postman, who needs no experience and no qualifications, should get paid the same as a degree qualified social worker with 10+ years experience?

I think you should try to work in deliveries and shift double workloads every other day and try to complete it within allocated time working properly. Impossible. You have to then inform the DOM about what you are bringing back and brace yourself for being pressured into completing or at least clearing tracked. I suggest you start in October and work all the way until February. You will then understand why I think postmen should be paid that amount. Figure is obviously a little bit inflated by the current living costs crisis and inflation.

[Clappedoutpostie]

You honestly think a postman, who needs no experience and no qualifications, should get paid the same as a degree qualified social worker with 10+ years experience?

I would suggest the social workers give their Union a nudge.

[Cedar_Room]

You honestly think a postman, who needs no experience and no qualifications, should get paid the same as a degree qualified social worker with 10+ years experience?

I would suggest the social workers give their Union a nudge.

I know someone who is a social worker. Their union membership at Unite is worse than ours for not showing up for important ballots. Their union wanted to reject the latest pay offer & go for industrial action but not enough people turned out & the strike threshold wasn’t met. So they’ve gotta lump it!

People think that Social workers are all dyed in the wool commies,just as they think that Postie’s are all ‘as one’ & stick up for each other. Maybe true once upon a time,but not now…

[yubin282]

£600 a week net would mean Royal Mail could rightly say we are well paid and can do without a pay rise. That's what I am trying to say where's in the north-west it should be in my opinion £500 a week net.

You honestly think a postman, who needs no experience and no qualifications, should get paid the same as a degree qualified social worker with 10+ years experience?

Why not?

WE'RE ALL IN IT TOGETHER.