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LTB 048/25 – UPDATE ON THE USO PILOTS

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Londonsburning
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Re: LTB 048/25 – UPDATE ON THE USO PILOTS

Post by Londonsburning »

Mr Rush wrote:
06 Mar 2025, 19:08
GRS wrote:
05 Mar 2025, 19:54
HarrySutton111 wrote:
05 Mar 2025, 17:35
Can't remember when RM hasn't changed,
And never for the better hence the mess it’s in now
When P&L came in I recall a cover manager saying to me privately that every change he had seen come in had made things worse. That said, at least until relatively recently you could still wager your life on the office being clear each day.
Relatively recently, meaning up until exactly March 2020.
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Re: LTB 048/25 – UPDATE ON THE USO PILOTS

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Mr Rush wrote:
06 Mar 2025, 19:08
GRS wrote:
05 Mar 2025, 19:54
HarrySutton111 wrote:
05 Mar 2025, 17:35
Can't remember when RM hasn't changed,
And never for the better hence the mess it’s in now
When P&L came in I recall a cover manager saying to me privately that every change he had seen come in had made things worse. That said, at least until relatively recently you could still wager your life on the office being clear each day.
The problem being that no matter how much RM make things worse with every change it always works itself out purely down to the Posties making the best of what they can to ensure things keep moving in the right direction. Once things have settled down & are “working” RM then have the nerve to say that we’re to blame for whatever crisis they find themselves in & our inefficiency is the main driver of this. To top it all the Union then jump on the RM bandwagon & say that we’ve got to accept that we need to change.
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Re: LTB 048/25 – UPDATE ON THE USO PILOTS

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https://news.sky.com/story/denmark-post ... s-13322922 Have all the trials you want but this will come to the UK sooner than we think. What’s the union going to do about this 😂
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Re: LTB 048/25 – UPDATE ON THE USO PILOTS

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Alfietherat wrote:
07 Mar 2025, 13:25
https://news.sky.com/story/denmark-post ... s-13322922 Have all the trials you want but this will come to the UK sooner than we think. What’s the union going to do about this 😂
No it won’t - only 6 million people compared to 70 million in UK
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Re: LTB 048/25 – UPDATE ON THE USO PILOTS

Post by Londonsburning »

qwerty2 wrote:
07 Mar 2025, 21:36
Alfietherat wrote:
07 Mar 2025, 13:25
https://news.sky.com/story/denmark-post ... s-13322922 Have all the trials you want but this will come to the UK sooner than we think. What’s the union going to do about this 😂
No it won’t - only 6 million people compared to 70 million in UK
Yes it will. Just times all the figures for Denmark by 10 and this is the future of RM.
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Re: LTB 048/25 – UPDATE ON THE USO PILOTS

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This is from FB.....



It is important to remember that the CWU has not agreed to full USO reform. If we eventually decide this is the best approach, there will be a national agreement covering this. Despite speculation, the only pilot site deployed is Newton Mearns DO in Scotland. Cumbernauld DO will go live on March 17th.

The other pilot sites will be introduced from now until the middle of May. The sites are being phased in because the flowchart attached to this LTB requires an 8-week process starting with data measurement and concluding with the actual deployment.

Newton Mearns went live this week. The unit’s members chose to opt for two Saturdays off in the month. They also introduced a further duty within the unit.

Whilst it is early days, the initial observation is that all the core mail walks have cleared each day and very high call rates. This higher call rate, some above 90%, is down to the sequencing machine releasing work significantly earlier than before the new duty set. The parcels are being carried out in Glasgow Mail Centre in the meantime.

The combined 1st class/parcel routes on Monday and Tuesday completed the planned delivery spans each day.

Cumbernauld is scheduled to go live on March 17th. They have also selected two Saturdays off every five weeks. Two duties have been put back into the unit, the indoor layout changes have been completed and local parties are working together to review the operation ahead of the go live date.
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Re: LTB 048/25 – UPDATE ON THE USO PILOTS

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If we eventually decide this is the best approach,
Ha, ha, ha, ha.

I love the way those in their ivory towers think they (the union hierarchy) will get a choice!
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Re: LTB 048/25 – UPDATE ON THE USO PILOTS

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yellowbelly wrote:
08 Mar 2025, 10:26
If we eventually decide this is the best approach,
Ha, ha, ha, ha.

I love the way those in their ivory towers think they (the union hierarchy) will get a choice!
:crazy: :crazy: :crazy:
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Re: LTB 048/25 – UPDATE ON THE USO PILOTS

Post by GRS »

yellowbelly wrote:
08 Mar 2025, 10:26
If we eventually decide this is the best approach,
Ha, ha, ha, ha.

I love the way those in their ivory towers think they (the union hierarchy) will get a choice!
That’s what I was thinking when reading it.
The Union love to give it all this Billy Big Bollocks “if we agree to the USO reforms” etc etc yet when you question why they can’t stop RM from doing this that & the other you get “it’s down to the company what they do, we can’t stop them, all we can do is try & smooth the path of changes”.
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Re: LTB 048/25 – UPDATE ON THE USO PILOTS

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"The parcels are being carried out in Glasgow Mail Centre in the meantime."

Any idea what words or words are missing from that sentence? Are parcels just being sorted or both sorted and then delivered by GMC?
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Re: LTB 048/25 – UPDATE ON THE USO PILOTS

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theotherone wrote:
08 Mar 2025, 10:22
Whilst it is early days, the initial observation is that all the core mail walks have cleared each day and very high call rates. This higher call rate, some above 90%, is down to the sequencing machine releasing work significantly earlier than before the new duty set.
There has either been a bulk posting of 1C for most delivery points or there's been a load of 2C for most delivery points that has hit the 5 day limit for the DTS.
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Re: LTB 048/25 – UPDATE ON THE USO PILOTS

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SpacePhoenix wrote:
08 Mar 2025, 23:27
theotherone wrote:
08 Mar 2025, 10:22
Whilst it is early days, the initial observation is that all the core mail walks have cleared each day and very high call rates. This higher call rate, some above 90%, is down to the sequencing machine releasing work significantly earlier than before the new duty set.
There has either been a bulk posting of 1C for most delivery points or there's been a load of 2C for most delivery points that has hit the 5 day limit for the DTS.
Or it's just typical amount of post for this time of the year? In my office over a 3 day period most properties will get post apart from the odd ones which never seem to get post, so 90% doesn't seem that high anyway.
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Re: LTB 048/25 – UPDATE ON THE USO PILOTS

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I noticed there's a big push made for more Saturdays off , when we're we ever consulted on this. Would there be an option to have more of a different day off 🤔
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Re: LTB 048/25 – UPDATE ON THE USO PILOTS

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There has been a marked increase in dsa 1class on the sat
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Re: LTB 048/25 – UPDATE ON THE USO PILOTS

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the shadow 36 wrote:
10 Mar 2025, 13:52
I noticed there's a big push made for more Saturdays off , when we're we ever consulted on this. Would there be an option to have more of a different day off 🤔
I reckon 90% of day off requests must be for Saturdays. Working 5 out of 6 was bearable when you were done for 11AM fifteen f***ing years ago. It has long been known that working Saturdays is unpopular.
POSTMAN wrote:
06 Dec 2006, 21:52
Saturday attendances will be significantly shorter than weekday attendances. To assist this Mailsort 3 need not be scheduled for delivery and missort runs should be rescheduled to enable an earlier start on town residential delivery routes.
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