This deal is a pay cut

[milly]

It is not a pay cut but a cost of living cut this whole thing could be solved by RM taking a pragmatic approach of using the war chest of investments and use a small part to give us 12% over two years with the bigger part up front ie 8% now and 4% next year. We still be short but do know that times are hard for all. Inflation is a benchmark of a basket of goods and consumables like fuel and gas and services and if as was the case it reached 11% in September last year 2022 but before that around April was 6%. The imposed pay was not reflective of the true cost of living at the time but some never get a pay rise but a good start would be a better deal than the one on the table!

I'm sorry to break it to you but inflation is far higher as the Government has fiddled the inflation figures for decades.
Anytime something in the basket of goods becomes expensive they replace them with something cheaper.
Food inflation is easily up 40% in the last year.
Inflation will be around for a long time as it is a deliberate Government policy to inflate away the National Debt.
The UK population are in for a massive drop in living standards in the next few years.

Get me the facts and I will look at them I can get the facts for all my posts on here so please give some facts on here milly.

You haven't noticed items that used to be 99p now cost £1.40 or higher, I believe the prices I'm charged at the checkout not the bogus inflation figures the Government agencies produce.
Do you get your "facts" from the Government .

Inflation is not just the cost of goods but providing transporting and serving those goods we will never get parity on this but thing is the government lost control of the economy and that is their job and they failed!

I'm afraid the public are culpable as they all want "free stuff" most people wanted the Government to waste Billions of pounds on Covid and to find accommodation for anyone that turns up on one of our beaches and also send Billions to Ukraine and sanction the 2nd biggest energy producer in the World.
I wonder if any of these events caused the inflation .
I take it you would take control of the economy with some austerity!

It has been a while since you blamed immigrants or asylum seekers for the problems in this country. Why not mention Brexit instead? The number one factor that has f****d this country for generations to come.

I'm not blaming immigrants, as usual you try and misrepresent what I am saying.
We don't have the money to house these people or pay for their welfare, the money is borrowed into existence because we don't take enough tax in to pay for them, this is inflationary.
Not sure what Brexit has to do with anything many EU Countries have worse inflation than the UK.
Tell me Lou where do we get the money from to pay for all of these extra people?
Deficit spending saddles future generations with debt but you don't care about that so long as you can virtue signal.

Do you really think asylum seekers or “illegal immigrants” are the biggest problem or cost facing our country? Also perhaps if we let more of them settle here and get jobs they could contribute to our society and tax system.

Its so easy to keep blaming the “migrants”, and people who do are so obviously brain washed into these views by the Daily Mail, Express etc

Not blaming illegal immigrants, we haven't got the infrastructure or money to deal with them.
The same people who complain about inflation are the same people who think the Government should keep borrowing unlimited amounts of money to pay for unsustainable amounts of immigration.

[stevejm]

Of course this would be ideal and more appealing for people.
We have to be realistic though.
Taking the company's financial perils into account getting 6% payrise is an achievement from the union.
Do you really think a private company haemorrhaging money would be given any pay rise.
It's because we have a strong union we are getting rewarded.
As painful as it is most firms and businesses are not giving inflation based pay rises.
Even self employed tradesman and local businesses profits margins have shrunk.
They can't raise their prices too much as they need to stay competitive.
The company stupidly gave away millions during COVID when they knew that productivity before the pandemic was poor and work was declining.
We should have been rewarded more off the back of that granted.
Truth is now, that is all they can afford now.
If it weren't for the union we may have got zero rise this year.

Your answer is based on the premise of the highlighted. I don't believe the company's financial position is as bad as they make out.
The Union is primarily interested in it's own survival as it can't help workers if it is not effective in the work place.
The IA is damaging - this agreement is a compromise to stop more damage to the company and to avoid the CWU losing more membership or a voice.
Now how to get the workers to accept it?
Answer :- Paint a bleak picture of terrible finances and administration.
You've swallowed it hook line and sinker. I haven't.

[Ddarko85]

As if illegal immigrants are getting blamed for the neglect and corruption of government.

People will never learn, will they.

[milly]

As if illegal immigrants are getting blamed for the neglect and corruption of government.

People will never learn, will they.

Funding illegal immigration, War, crazy energy policies, an enormous Welfare State, a bloated Public Sector and insane sanctions are the cause of inflation.
The UK is skint!
There will be no Old age Pension for younger generations as we have blown the lot!

[LouBarlow]

It is not a pay cut but a cost of living cut this whole thing could be solved by RM taking a pragmatic approach of using the war chest of investments and use a small part to give us 12% over two years with the bigger part up front ie 8% now and 4% next year. We still be short but do know that times are hard for all. Inflation is a benchmark of a basket of goods and consumables like fuel and gas and services and if as was the case it reached 11% in September last year 2022 but before that around April was 6%. The imposed pay was not reflective of the true cost of living at the time but some never get a pay rise but a good start would be a better deal than the one on the table!

I'm sorry to break it to you but inflation is far higher as the Government has fiddled the inflation figures for decades.
Anytime something in the basket of goods becomes expensive they replace them with something cheaper.
Food inflation is easily up 40% in the last year.
Inflation will be around for a long time as it is a deliberate Government policy to inflate away the National Debt.
The UK population are in for a massive drop in living standards in the next few years.

Get me the facts and I will look at them I can get the facts for all my posts on here so please give some facts on here milly.

You haven't noticed items that used to be 99p now cost £1.40 or higher, I believe the prices I'm charged at the checkout not the bogus inflation figures the Government agencies produce.
Do you get your "facts" from the Government .

Inflation is not just the cost of goods but providing transporting and serving those goods we will never get parity on this but thing is the government lost control of the economy and that is their job and they failed!

I'm afraid the public are culpable as they all want "free stuff" most people wanted the Government to waste Billions of pounds on Covid and to find accommodation for anyone that turns up on one of our beaches and also send Billions to Ukraine and sanction the 2nd biggest energy producer in the World.
I wonder if any of these events caused the inflation .
I take it you would take control of the economy with some austerity!

It has been a while since you blamed immigrants or asylum seekers for the problems in this country. Why not mention Brexit instead? The number one factor that has f****d this country for generations to come.

I'm not blaming immigrants, as usual you try and misrepresent what I am saying.
We don't have the money to house these people or pay for their welfare, the money is borrowed into existence because we don't take enough tax in to pay for them, this is inflationary.
Not sure what Brexit has to do with anything many EU Countries have worse inflation than the UK.
Tell me Lou where do we get the money from to pay for all of these extra people?
Deficit spending saddles future generations with debt but you don't care about that so long as you can virtue signal.

Do you really think asylum seekers or “illegal immigrants” are the biggest problem or cost facing our country? Also perhaps if we let more of them settle here and get jobs they could contribute to our society and tax system.

Its so easy to keep blaming the “migrants”, and people who do are so obviously brain washed into these views by the Daily Mail, Express etc

It has long been fact that immigrants put more into the system than they take out and are less of a drain on the welfare state than people born here, but people like milly hand-wave that away and accuse you of virtue signalling for pointing it out.

[milly]

It is not a pay cut but a cost of living cut this whole thing could be solved by RM taking a pragmatic approach of using the war chest of investments and use a small part to give us 12% over two years with the bigger part up front ie 8% now and 4% next year. We still be short but do know that times are hard for all. Inflation is a benchmark of a basket of goods and consumables like fuel and gas and services and if as was the case it reached 11% in September last year 2022 but before that around April was 6%. The imposed pay was not reflective of the true cost of living at the time but some never get a pay rise but a good start would be a better deal than the one on the table!

I'm sorry to break it to you but inflation is far higher as the Government has fiddled the inflation figures for decades.
Anytime something in the basket of goods becomes expensive they replace them with something cheaper.
Food inflation is easily up 40% in the last year.
Inflation will be around for a long time as it is a deliberate Government policy to inflate away the National Debt.
The UK population are in for a massive drop in living standards in the next few years.

Get me the facts and I will look at them I can get the facts for all my posts on here so please give some facts on here milly.

You haven't noticed items that used to be 99p now cost £1.40 or higher, I believe the prices I'm charged at the checkout not the bogus inflation figures the Government agencies produce.
Do you get your "facts" from the Government .

Inflation is not just the cost of goods but providing transporting and serving those goods we will never get parity on this but thing is the government lost control of the economy and that is their job and they failed!

I'm afraid the public are culpable as they all want "free stuff" most people wanted the Government to waste Billions of pounds on Covid and to find accommodation for anyone that turns up on one of our beaches and also send Billions to Ukraine and sanction the 2nd biggest energy producer in the World.
I wonder if any of these events caused the inflation .
I take it you would take control of the economy with some austerity!

It has been a while since you blamed immigrants or asylum seekers for the problems in this country. Why not mention Brexit instead? The number one factor that has f****d this country for generations to come.

I'm not blaming immigrants, as usual you try and misrepresent what I am saying.
We don't have the money to house these people or pay for their welfare, the money is borrowed into existence because we don't take enough tax in to pay for them, this is inflationary.
Not sure what Brexit has to do with anything many EU Countries have worse inflation than the UK.
Tell me Lou where do we get the money from to pay for all of these extra people?
Deficit spending saddles future generations with debt but you don't care about that so long as you can virtue signal.

Do you really think asylum seekers or “illegal immigrants” are the biggest problem or cost facing our country? Also perhaps if we let more of them settle here and get jobs they could contribute to our society and tax system.

Its so easy to keep blaming the “migrants”, and people who do are so obviously brain washed into these views by the Daily Mail, Express etc

It has long been fact that immigrants put more into the system than they take out and are less of a drain on the welfare state than people born here, but people like milly hand-wave that away and accuse you of virtue signalling for pointing it out.

The UK is skint,
We spend far more money than we take in taxes so we monetize the debt which expands the money supply this causes inflation.
Housing illegal immigrants in Hotels for months on end because there are no Houses available is inflationary.
Pointing out facts isn't racist!

[Mickeybrowneyes]

Of course this would be ideal and more appealing for people.
We have to be realistic though.
Taking the company's financial perils into account getting 6% payrise is an achievement from the union.
Do you really think a private company haemorrhaging money would be given any pay rise.
It's because we have a strong union we are getting rewarded.
As painful as it is most firms and businesses are not giving inflation based pay rises.
Even self employed tradesman and local businesses profits margins have shrunk.
They can't raise their prices too much as they need to stay competitive.
The company stupidly gave away millions during COVID when they knew that productivity before the pandemic was poor and work was declining.
We should have been rewarded more off the back of that granted.
Truth is now, that is all they can afford now.
If it weren't for the union we may have got zero rise this year.

Your answer is based on the premise of the highlighted. I don't believe the company's financial position is as bad as they make out.
The Union is primarily interested in it's own survival as it can't help workers if it is not effective in the work place.
The IA is damaging - this agreement is a compromise to stop more damage to the company and to avoid the CWU losing more membership or a voice.
Now how to get the workers to accept it?
Answer :- Paint a bleak picture of terrible finances and administration.
You've swallowed it hook line and sinker. I haven't.

I personally trust the union when they say the financial position of the company is in a state of crisis.
We were struggling before the pandemic, now letters have gone down drastically and parcels growth has stagnated or even declined.
With the cost of energy, fuel and the effects of the strikes is it that hard to believe that their finances have taken a hit.

[stevejm]

Of course this would be ideal and more appealing for people.
We have to be realistic though.
Taking the company's financial perils into account getting 6% payrise is an achievement from the union.
Do you really think a private company haemorrhaging money would be given any pay rise.
It's because we have a strong union we are getting rewarded.
As painful as it is most firms and businesses are not giving inflation based pay rises.
Even self employed tradesman and local businesses profits margins have shrunk.
They can't raise their prices too much as they need to stay competitive.
The company stupidly gave away millions during COVID when they knew that productivity before the pandemic was poor and work was declining.
We should have been rewarded more off the back of that granted.
Truth is now, that is all they can afford now.
If it weren't for the union we may have got zero rise this year.

Your answer is based on the premise of the highlighted. I don't believe the company's financial position is as bad as they make out.
The Union is primarily interested in it's own survival as it can't help workers if it is not effective in the work place.
The IA is damaging - this agreement is a compromise to stop more damage to the company and to avoid the CWU losing more membership or a voice.
Now how to get the workers to accept it?
Answer :- Paint a bleak picture of terrible finances and administration.
You've swallowed it hook line and sinker. I haven't.

I personally trust the union when they say the financial position of the company is in a state of crisis.
We were struggling before the pandemic, now letters have gone down drastically and parcels growth has stagnated or even declined.
With the cost of energy, fuel and the effects of the strikes is it that hard to believe that their finances have taken a hit.

all true but these are beliefs. RM is still part of IDS. IDS is doing well overall - you can google it if you like including analysis of 2023 balance sheet etc.
If you are of the view that RM should stand on its own 2 feet then you share that view with the board and S.T.
I have the view that as we were key workers and responsible for great profits which the I.D.S shareholders were happy to portion out amongst themselves - then it is payback time and IDS can afford a more generous pay offer as well as cut the vicious IHR changes out of the agreement.

[LouBarlow]

It is not a pay cut but a cost of living cut this whole thing could be solved by RM taking a pragmatic approach of using the war chest of investments and use a small part to give us 12% over two years with the bigger part up front ie 8% now and 4% next year. We still be short but do know that times are hard for all. Inflation is a benchmark of a basket of goods and consumables like fuel and gas and services and if as was the case it reached 11% in September last year 2022 but before that around April was 6%. The imposed pay was not reflective of the true cost of living at the time but some never get a pay rise but a good start would be a better deal than the one on the table!

I'm sorry to break it to you but inflation is far higher as the Government has fiddled the inflation figures for decades.
Anytime something in the basket of goods becomes expensive they replace them with something cheaper.
Food inflation is easily up 40% in the last year.
Inflation will be around for a long time as it is a deliberate Government policy to inflate away the National Debt.
The UK population are in for a massive drop in living standards in the next few years.

Get me the facts and I will look at them I can get the facts for all my posts on here so please give some facts on here milly.

You haven't noticed items that used to be 99p now cost £1.40 or higher, I believe the prices I'm charged at the checkout not the bogus inflation figures the Government agencies produce.
Do you get your "facts" from the Government .

Inflation is not just the cost of goods but providing transporting and serving those goods we will never get parity on this but thing is the government lost control of the economy and that is their job and they failed!

I'm afraid the public are culpable as they all want "free stuff" most people wanted the Government to waste Billions of pounds on Covid and to find accommodation for anyone that turns up on one of our beaches and also send Billions to Ukraine and sanction the 2nd biggest energy producer in the World.
I wonder if any of these events caused the inflation .
I take it you would take control of the economy with some austerity!

It has been a while since you blamed immigrants or asylum seekers for the problems in this country. Why not mention Brexit instead? The number one factor that has f****d this country for generations to come.

I'm not blaming immigrants, as usual you try and misrepresent what I am saying.
We don't have the money to house these people or pay for their welfare, the money is borrowed into existence because we don't take enough tax in to pay for them, this is inflationary.
Not sure what Brexit has to do with anything many EU Countries have worse inflation than the UK.
Tell me Lou where do we get the money from to pay for all of these extra people?
Deficit spending saddles future generations with debt but you don't care about that so long as you can virtue signal.

Do you really think asylum seekers or “illegal immigrants” are the biggest problem or cost facing our country? Also perhaps if we let more of them settle here and get jobs they could contribute to our society and tax system.

Its so easy to keep blaming the “migrants”, and people who do are so obviously brain washed into these views by the Daily Mail, Express etc

It has long been fact that immigrants put more into the system than they take out and are less of a drain on the welfare state than people born here, but people like milly hand-wave that away and accuse you of virtue signalling for pointing it out.

The UK is skint,
We spend far more money than we take in taxes so we monetize the debt which expands the money supply this causes inflation.
Housing illegal immigrants in Hotels for months on end because there are no Houses available is inflationary.
Pointing out facts isn't racist!

You are ignoring the facts that you don’t like though, like the one I pointed out. Immigrants pay more in tax than they take out. They contribute. And who is this ‘we’ anyway? You admitted before that you weren’t even from this country, yet you think that now you have benefited from moving here, that we should prevent others from doing the same? What an utter hypocrite.

[milly]

I'm here legally.
Out of interest if mass immigration brings so much wealth how comes we have been deficit spending for so many years, surely the Government should have a surplus of cash.

[Mickeybrowneyes]

Of course this would be ideal and more appealing for people.
We have to be realistic though.
Taking the company's financial perils into account getting 6% payrise is an achievement from the union.
Do you really think a private company haemorrhaging money would be given any pay rise.
It's because we have a strong union we are getting rewarded.
As painful as it is most firms and businesses are not giving inflation based pay rises.
Even self employed tradesman and local businesses profits margins have shrunk.
They can't raise their prices too much as they need to stay competitive.
The company stupidly gave away millions during COVID when they knew that productivity before the pandemic was poor and work was declining.
We should have been rewarded more off the back of that granted.
Truth is now, that is all they can afford now.
If it weren't for the union we may have got zero rise this year.

Your answer is based on the premise of the highlighted. I don't believe the company's financial position is as bad as they make out.
The Union is primarily interested in it's own survival as it can't help workers if it is not effective in the work place.
The IA is damaging - this agreement is a compromise to stop more damage to the company and to avoid the CWU losing more membership or a voice.
Now how to get the workers to accept it?
Answer :- Paint a bleak picture of terrible finances and administration.
You've swallowed it hook line and sinker. I haven't.

I personally trust the union when they say the financial position of the company is in a state of crisis.
We were struggling before the pandemic, now letters have gone down drastically and parcels growth has stagnated or even declined.
With the cost of energy, fuel and the effects of the strikes is it that hard to believe that their finances have taken a hit.

all true but these are beliefs. RM is still part of IDS. IDS is doing well overall - you can google it if you like including analysis of 2023 balance sheet etc.
If you are of the view that RM should stand on its own 2 feet then you share that view with the board and S.T.
I have the view that as we were key workers and responsible for great profits which the I.D.S shareholders were happy to portion out amongst themselves - then it is payback time and IDS can afford a more generous pay offer as well as cut the vicious IHR changes out of the agreement.

I take your point on board.
Are you suggesting the union are misleading us when they say they believe the company are skint. It's possible.
Maybe they should be making the argument to cross-subsidise.
Still ultimately up to the company to do this or not though

[stevejm]

Of course this would be ideal and more appealing for people.
We have to be realistic though.
Taking the company's financial perils into account getting 6% payrise is an achievement from the union.
Do you really think a private company haemorrhaging money would be given any pay rise.
It's because we have a strong union we are getting rewarded.
As painful as it is most firms and businesses are not giving inflation based pay rises.
Even self employed tradesman and local businesses profits margins have shrunk.
They can't raise their prices too much as they need to stay competitive.
The company stupidly gave away millions during COVID when they knew that productivity before the pandemic was poor and work was declining.
We should have been rewarded more off the back of that granted.
Truth is now, that is all they can afford now.
If it weren't for the union we may have got zero rise this year.

Your answer is based on the premise of the highlighted. I don't believe the company's financial position is as bad as they make out.
The Union is primarily interested in it's own survival as it can't help workers if it is not effective in the work place.
The IA is damaging - this agreement is a compromise to stop more damage to the company and to avoid the CWU losing more membership or a voice.
Now how to get the workers to accept it?
Answer :- Paint a bleak picture of terrible finances and administration.
You've swallowed it hook line and sinker. I haven't.

I personally trust the union when they say the financial position of the company is in a state of crisis.
We were struggling before the pandemic, now letters have gone down drastically and parcels growth has stagnated or even declined.
With the cost of energy, fuel and the effects of the strikes is it that hard to believe that their finances have taken a hit.

all true but these are beliefs. RM is still part of IDS. IDS is doing well overall - you can google it if you like including analysis of 2023 balance sheet etc.
If you are of the view that RM should stand on its own 2 feet then you share that view with the board and S.T.
I have the view that as we were key workers and responsible for great profits which the I.D.S shareholders were happy to portion out amongst themselves - then it is payback time and IDS can afford a more generous pay offer as well as cut the vicious IHR changes out of the agreement.

I take your point on board.
Are you suggesting the union are misleading us when they say they believe the company are skint. It's possible.
Maybe they should be making the argument to cross-subsidise.
Still ultimately up to the company to do this or not though

they've already decided they don't want to cross-subsidise.
Yes!! That is what I am saying.
The company and the union need to bring an end to a damaging dispute. The Union is like a wounded animal that knows it is beaten - now it needs to lick it's wounds and save it's resources so it can fight another day. It did its best - but lost.
Now.... April 2023 - its only interest is preserving its strength. Another strike will make it weaker.
Look at Clairedarep's new thread titled 'Martin Walsh'
I have been saying this for weeks now and her's is not the only post to allude that the CWU is now colluding with RM to get back to some stability.
Again - the CWU's priorities
1. It's continued existence
2. The welfare of its reps
3. the welfare of the workers it represents

If 1. and 2. are assured it will do its utmost to help the workers/members

When 1. and 2. are in doubt then members are expendable.

[Mickeybrowneyes]

Of course this would be ideal and more appealing for people.
We have to be realistic though.
Taking the company's financial perils into account getting 6% payrise is an achievement from the union.
Do you really think a private company haemorrhaging money would be given any pay rise.
It's because we have a strong union we are getting rewarded.
As painful as it is most firms and businesses are not giving inflation based pay rises.
Even self employed tradesman and local businesses profits margins have shrunk.
They can't raise their prices too much as they need to stay competitive.
The company stupidly gave away millions during COVID when they knew that productivity before the pandemic was poor and work was declining.
We should have been rewarded more off the back of that granted.
Truth is now, that is all they can afford now.
If it weren't for the union we may have got zero rise this year.

Your answer is based on the premise of the highlighted. I don't believe the company's financial position is as bad as they make out.
The Union is primarily interested in it's own survival as it can't help workers if it is not effective in the work place.
The IA is damaging - this agreement is a compromise to stop more damage to the company and to avoid the CWU losing more membership or a voice.
Now how to get the workers to accept it?
Answer :- Paint a bleak picture of terrible finances and administration.
You've swallowed it hook line and sinker. I haven't.

I personally trust the union when they say the financial position of the company is in a state of crisis.
We were struggling before the pandemic, now letters have gone down drastically and parcels growth has stagnated or even declined.
With the cost of energy, fuel and the effects of the strikes is it that hard to believe that their finances have taken a hit.

all true but these are beliefs. RM is still part of IDS. IDS is doing well overall - you can google it if you like including analysis of 2023 balance sheet etc.
If you are of the view that RM should stand on its own 2 feet then you share that view with the board and S.T.
I have the view that as we were key workers and responsible for great profits which the I.D.S shareholders were happy to portion out amongst themselves - then it is payback time and IDS can afford a more generous pay offer as well as cut the vicious IHR changes out of the agreement.

I take your point on board.
Are you suggesting the union are misleading us when they say they believe the company are skint. It's possible.
Maybe they should be making the argument to cross-subsidise.
Still ultimately up to the company to do this or not though

they've already decided they don't want to cross-subsidise.
Yes!! That is what I am saying.
The company and the union need to bring an end to a damaging dispute. The Union is like a wounded animal that knows it is beaten - now it needs to lick it's wounds and save it's resources so it can fight another day. It did its best - but lost.
Now.... April 2023 - its only interest is preserving its strength. Another strike will make it weaker.
Look at Clairedarep's new thread titled 'Martin Walsh'
I have been saying this for weeks now and her's is not the only post to allude that the CWU is now colluding with RM to get back to some stability.
Again - the CWU's priorities
1. It's continued existence
2. The welfare of its reps
3. the welfare of the workers it represents

If 1. and 2. are assured it will do its utmost to help the workers/members

When 1. and 2. are in doubt then members are expendable.

Without the members than the union is obsolete.
You can't separate the two.
We are the union and the reps are our voice piece.
That is how I have always seen it anyhow.
I take your points on board.
Where can we access the profit figures for IDS if what your saying is true

[Navalron]

No sweetie, it would have been a pay cut if they had said we want to take your wages from £13.39 p/h down to £10.09 p/h over 3 years instead of up to the £14 something on offer.

Your just a noise up. Dxxxhead.

Hi honey! you dont even work at RM anymore so why your concerned enough to be posting on a postie site at midnight is just frankly a bit wierd.

Because idiots like you are prepared to throw away all the hard fought terms and conditions. Also I'm a union rep who stands by my fellow union membership in other unions. We all should be working TOGETHER to win our disputes. But loosers like you, well, there's no hope. As for posting my comment on you at midnight, well we also work 24/7 but we get decent payments for overtime ect. Fuds like you shouldn't get the pay increase as your quite happy not to be in a union paying subs but take the extra pay. Your part time and probably getting some sort of housing benefit/ universal credit to top up your wages. Boy are you in for a shock. No longer are people going to be able to sit on 20/25 hours pay and part benefits. My jobcentreplus colleagues are going to make sure you get another part time job to make you call out of support. I'm against this but sometimes wonder if twats like you deserve it. By now.

[FilthyBloke]

No sweetie, it would have been a pay cut if they had said we want to take your wages from £13.39 p/h down to £10.09 p/h over 3 years instead of up to the £14 something on offer.

Your just a noise up. Dxxxhead.

Hi honey! you dont even work at RM anymore so why your concerned enough to be posting on a postie site at midnight is just frankly a bit wierd.

Because idiots like you are prepared to throw away all the hard fought terms and conditions. Also I'm a union rep who stands by my fellow union membership in other unions. We all should be working TOGETHER to win our disputes. But loosers like you, well, there's no hope. As for posting my comment on you at midnight, well we also work 24/7 but we get decent payments for overtime ect. Fuds like you shouldn't get the pay increase as your quite happy not to be in a union paying subs but take the extra pay. Your part time and probably getting some sort of housing benefit/ universal credit to top up your wages. Boy are you in for a shock. No longer are people going to be able to sit on 20/25 hours pay and part benefits. My jobcentreplus colleagues are going to make sure you get another part time job to make you call out of support. I'm against this but sometimes wonder if twats like you deserve it. By now.

You say you’re a union rep and then throw insults at someone.
Go figure.