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LTB 096/23 - Royal Mail Group: National Briefing - Friday 21st April

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Zicomurphy
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Re: LTB 096/23 - Royal Mail Group: National Briefing - Friday 21st April

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andy g wrote:
18 Apr 2023, 17:15
National briefing are normally called to go through the negotiator’s agreement with senior reps who then go back to their respective branches. Local reps are then invited to meetings to go through the agreement and then sell it to the membership.
I might be wrong but they should release the documents now if it’s been endorsed by the PEC.
Any further delays are totally unacceptable.
Strong agree.

I’ve been very understanding of the lack of communication during negotiations. I’ve understood there has probably been confidentiality clauses and agreements to not make public statements whilst a deal was reached. Now it has been reached, and assuming the PEC has endorsed it, there is absolutely no reason not to let us see it now. We are adults. We are quite capable of reading and understanding an agreement and forming our own opinions.
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Re: LTB 096/23 - Royal Mail Group: National Briefing - Friday 21st April

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And why on earth would you hold in Bristol, not exactly central, or easy to get to?
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Re: LTB 096/23 - Royal Mail Group: National Briefing - Friday 21st April

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stevejm wrote:
18 Apr 2023, 19:01
smartin1982 wrote:
18 Apr 2023, 18:03
Anyone still in doubt where the CWUs priorities lie?!

Sham.
Here are the CWU's priorities.

1/ Their continued existence. (subs)
2/ The well being of their representatives.
3/ The well-being of the membership. We are last.

You can't help other people if you are unwell yourself - same for individuals as for organisations.
Exactly.

There’s a quote by someone, can’t remember who or the exact wording but it’s along the lines of

“There will always come a time when the elected party will put its own needs before that of the country and the people to ensure its own survival”
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Re: LTB 096/23 - Royal Mail Group: National Briefing - Friday 21st April

Post by k979aaa »

smartin1982 wrote:
19 Apr 2023, 09:20
stevejm wrote:
18 Apr 2023, 19:01
smartin1982 wrote:
18 Apr 2023, 18:03
Anyone still in doubt where the CWUs priorities lie?!

Sham.
Here are the CWU's priorities.

1/ Their continued existence. (subs)
2/ The well being of their representatives.
3/ The well-being of the membership. We are last.

You can't help other people if you are unwell yourself - same for individuals as for organisations.
Exactly.

There’s a quote by someone, can’t remember who or the exact wording but it’s along the lines of

“There will always come a time when the elected party will put its own needs before that of the country and the people to ensure its own survival”
Still holds true to business they thank you stab you in the back and say that is business!
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Re: LTB 096/23 - Royal Mail Group: National Briefing - Friday 21st April

Post by geordieboy123 »

Zicomurphy wrote:
18 Apr 2023, 20:29
andy g wrote:
18 Apr 2023, 17:15
National briefing are normally called to go through the negotiator’s agreement with senior reps who then go back to their respective branches. Local reps are then invited to meetings to go through the agreement and then sell it to the membership.
I might be wrong but they should release the documents now if it’s been endorsed by the PEC.
Any further delays are totally unacceptable.
Strong agree.

I’ve been very understanding of the lack of communication during negotiations. I’ve understood there has probably been confidentiality clauses and agreements to not make public statements whilst a deal was reached. Now it has been reached, and assuming the PEC has endorsed it, there is absolutely no reason not to let us see it now. We are adults. We are quite capable of reading and understanding an agreement and forming our own opinions.
I’ve reliably been informed that after Fridays meeting there will be a briefing next week for local reps and there will be workplace meetings after that to explain it to members and that is the normal procedure as it has to be done properly.
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Re: Royal Mail Group: National Briefing – Friday 21st April

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POSTMAN wrote:
18 Apr 2023, 14:57
https://www.cwu.org/ltb/ltb-096-23-roya ... 1st-april/

LTB 096/23 – Royal Mail Group: National Briefing – Friday 21st April
No. 096/23

18th April 2023

Dear Colleagues,

Royal Mail Group: National Briefing – Friday 21st April

A National Briefing will be held on Friday 21st April 2023 to provide Branches with an update in regard to our negotiations with Royal Mail Group and next steps.

The Briefing will commence at 11:00 and conclude no later than 15:00 at:

The Dolman Hall
Ashton Gate Stadium
Ashton Rd
Bristol
BS3 2EJ

Tea and coffee will be available from 10.30.

All Branches are requested to make this a priority engagement and attendance arrangements should be in accordance with normal protocols for National Briefings whilst ensuring the importance of our proportionality requirements.

Attached is a brief paper to illustrate the bus services that go near to the Stadium as well as the nearest railway station. Branches should also note that Central Bristol has a clean air zone and the link below provides details of the applicable charges:

https://www.bristol.gov.uk/residents/st ... le-checker

Any enquiries in relation to this LTB should be addressed to the DGS(P) Department – fkelk@cwu.org or acorbett@cwu.org

Yours sincerely,

Andy Furey
A/Deputy General Secretary (Postal)

Dave Ward
General Secretary
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Re: Royal Mail Group: National Briefing – Friday 21st April

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POSTMAN wrote:
18 Apr 2023, 14:57
https://www.cwu.org/ltb/ltb-096-23-roya ... 1st-april/

LTB 096/23 – Royal Mail Group: National Briefing – Friday 21st April
No. 096/23

18th April 2023

Dear Colleagues,

Royal Mail Group: National Briefing – Friday 21st April

A National Briefing will be held on Friday 21st April 2023 to provide Branches with an update in regard to our negotiations with Royal Mail Group and next steps.

The Briefing will commence at 11:00 and conclude no later than 15:00 at:

The Dolman Hall
Ashton Gate Stadium
Ashton Rd
Bristol
BS3 2EJ

Tea and coffee will be available from 10.30.

All Branches are requested to make this a priority engagement and attendance arrangements should be in accordance with normal protocols for National Briefings whilst ensuring the importance of our proportionality requirements.

Attached is a brief paper to illustrate the bus services that go near to the Stadium as well as the nearest railway station. Branches should also note that Central Bristol has a clean air zone and the link below provides details of the applicable charges:

https://www.bristol.gov.uk/residents/st ... le-checker

Any enquiries in relation to this LTB should be addressed to the DGS(P) Department – fkelk@cwu.org or acorbett@cwu.org

Yours sincerely,

Andy Furey
A/Deputy General Secretary (Postal)

Dave Ward
General Secretary
Why is the CWU spending all of our subs on this? Surely an online meeting would have covered it without dragging 60% of branches over a minimum of 150 miles to attend. Sound like an excuse for a jolly boy's weekend at our expense :thumbdown
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Re: LTB 096/23 - Royal Mail Group: National Briefing - Friday 21st April

Post by LouBarlow »

Probably because it is arguably the most important agreement any of us will be involved in with this job. They need to ensure that it is explained throughly and communicated to all members afterwards. They spent enough money bussing members down to London for a photoshoot during the action. This is much more important.
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Re: LTB 096/23 - Royal Mail Group: National Briefing - Friday 21st April

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Starts at 11am.