DOING THE JOB PROPERLY

[redlen]

I do the job properly. I don’t start early I always have my full breaks and I don’t carry overweight bags.

In the coming revision I’ve had nothing added to my delivery. It’s probably helps it was already big and my PDA actuals back that up.

Still amazes me how many start early and take shortcuts.

But the question remains

Why are you carrying bags still and not using mandatory delivery equipment such as a LWT/HCT?,

For once I'll take your word on something. But, nobody has ever told me that LWTs are mandatory. My 'training' 5 years ago didn't mention it. Across 2 delivery offices I have only seen LWTs used extremely sporadically. I have used them fora week or so when with a bad back.
Also, if every postee in our DO was to ask for one the same day and refuse to go out without one there'd be a massive failure as there's probably only half a dozen due to a previous manager trashing them all because they ruined our productivity.

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Delivery Methods

Royal Mail is making a large investment in new Delivery Methods. This creates an operational solution to secure growth in the market. It will also improve efficiency through reduced reliance on dedicated delivery support duties/activities (acceleration, replenishment and some packet/bulk deliveries).
This new investment is welcomed by Royal Mail and CWU – and represents a significant step forward in delivery. It underpins a number of long standing joint objectives, all of which form an integral part of Delivery Methods revisions:
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Improving safety in delivery.
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Improving customer service.
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Reducing the impact of weight on delivery.
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Providing capability and capacity on delivery routes for future packet growth.
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Providing modern and fit for purpose equipment for delivery people.
The Delivery Methods/equipment that currently fit into this category is:
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Lightweight Trolley (LWT)
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High Capacity Trolley (HCT)
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Electric High Capacity Trolley (EHCT)
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Motor Vehicles (CDV *,Panel Vans, Compact etc)
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Delivery pouch
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Cycles
The CWU will be fully involved in the development of all Delivery Methods equipment including SSOW prior to introduction into the operation. All Delivery Methods equipment will support the objectives of working safely, reducing fatigue and removing where possible weight off the shoulder. The overriding objective is to facilitate a safe, fair, manageable and productive workload.

The introduction of new delivery methods equipment will follow the agreed delivery revisions process and will need to take account of D2D.

Once assigned the use of equipment specified for the route will be mandatory.


Specific issues such as DDA cases will be examined and accommodated in line with relevant legislation.

[Shadedpostie]

We on here have had some asking why the union is not doing this or that but you all everyone of you can do this this is not illegal nor will it be anyway need a ballot and is not industrial action nor can you be sanctioned for doing this here are the rules.
1 Start on time do not come in and work before your start time.
2 If you feel due to the nature of the workload that is left by the failure of management tell them you cannot complete
3 Take your meal relife/break before you go out.
4 Tell them if you think you cannot complete at the earliest possibility ie before you go out but traffic or other factors may affect this but do it!
5 Be back on time ie you need time to unload park the van hand keys in scan out be out of the building on time.
At the end of the day it is your life play the game that they have on the table it's not your fault they have made a hard job impossible all the best to you all!

Whilst I and many will no doubt agree ,you're wasting your time with many.they either dont understand how not doing as you say fxxks up the job, no matter how many times you tell them or they just arnt interested. And I do think if we all did the job correctly including trollies management would still be looking to cut and keep cutting hours.i mean, I bet there arnt many if any in processing cutting corners and its happening there too, happy to be corrected if people are?

It's true. In fact there is one particular guy in our office that continues to come in early and jokes about it. He couldn't even give a toss about anyone else long as he finishes early. He is one of the people that didn't even show up at the picket lines and slag off the union for not working. I'm bewildered why people even entertain him. I myself might be critical of some of the union actions no one is above criticism, not even the union. , However, long as you have complete tools like him still existing in this company, you got no chance of things changing in this company.

Dont you scan in and out at your office yet then ? Oddly enough we still have 1 or 2 that start before their time even though we scan in and out so cant go home early, even more bonkers!

They actually scan in at the start times they should be coming in at but not when they are actually coming in. When it comes to scanning out, they either waiting around the machine whenever I'm back say 10 minutes early before finish time and laughing and joking about it when pulled about it. Orrrr, they take the PDAs home with them and do it that way, then next morning replace the batteries. It's beyond a joke, how the hell can you bring a clock out system that's so easily exploited like this is ridiculous. Other companies you'd have the clock in system using like a thob or by the gates so you'd be let in the building, not a damn remote device that every f****r can use

[Kenfandango]

SISO is (according to our manager so many pinches of salt required... But he did say it was stupid) set up to clock you in "at your time" if you're early. Start time 5.57 but scan in at 5.40, it'll say you started at 5.57. At the other end it clocks how early back you are to the minute...
20+ years ago I briefly worked for a massive company that had signing in machines, and scanning in more than 5 minutes early would get you a talking to from a manager. They were of the opinion that they'd never know if they were under/overstaffed unless everyone stuck to their actual time, and any overtime had to be agreed in writing at least 24 hours in advance

[Kenfandango]

It's beyond a joke, how the hell can you bring a clock out system that's so easily exploited like this is ridiculous. Other companies you'd have the clock in system using like a thob or by the gates so you'd be let in the building, not a damn remote device that every f****r can use

Our COMs keep telling us that the option to sign in and out on PDAs is being removed, but they've been saying it for months. I assume it's still there because the cheap rubbish PDAs everyone is meant to sign in with run out of battery within a few hours

[djhl]

For those asking about break length
On a daily basis if
Less than 7 hours. 30 minutes
A second over 7 hours. 40 minutes
Over 9 hours. 50 minutes

[SpacePhoenix]

For those asking about break length
On a daily basis if
Less than 7 hours. 30 minutes
A second over 7 hours. 40 minutes
Over 9 hours. 50 minutes

[eastie]

I laugh when the COM comes up to me and tells me WE have to have a plan to clear your rammed frame.
WE ????
start at my start time have my break and go home at my finish time
Not my problem the walk is rediculously long
Dont want any Overtime .
Not WE its YOUR problem .
Just do your round by the book, dont rush to try and complete.
CHILL and go home

[Seymour Buts]

This logic doesn't work though, does it? Every paired duty in our office has had between 350 - 400 delivery points added to it, the way anybody worked attached to those duties previously has had absolutely no bearing on it. It's just generic for our office; that's what's happened. Personally, I think if you're coming in early you're a fool but it's not those individuals who are responsible for what's going on.

[norris9]

Was it Royal Mail's hope that a lot of workers would/will work their day off and stay out and complete? or is it that they prefer to pay as little of their wage bill out on delivering standard letters/parcels as possible?

Probably the latter, but if the former...... not many people want to walk 72 miles a week doing on average 12 miles a day over 6 days. I would not be surprised if Royal Mail are totally ignorant to what that does to your body.

[dazzler123]

Was it Royal Mail's hope that a lot of workers would/will work their day off and stay out and complete? or is it that they prefer to pay as little of their wage bill out on delivering standard letters/parcels as possible?

Probably the latter, but if the former...... not many people want to walk 72 miles a week doing on average 12 miles a day over 6 days. I would not be surprised if Royal Mail are totally ignorant to what that does to your body.

that was summed up perfect in the commitee interview. ST said Royal Mail have one of the biggest sickness records around, expecting sympathy. Darren Jones replied back to him what are you doing to your workers then?

[CamPostie]

Was it Royal Mail's hope that a lot of workers would/will work their day off and stay out and complete? or is it that they prefer to pay as little of their wage bill out on delivering standard letters/parcels as possible?

Probably the latter, but if the former...... not many people want to walk 72 miles a week doing on average 12 miles a day over 6 days. I would not be surprised if Royal Mail are totally ignorant to what that does to your body.

They weren’t because sick pay and IHR was reasonably generous I’m led to believe, no doubt in part because the company was aware that if a few employees suffering I’ll health effects got themselves lawyers and took cases against the company, RM would find it very difficult to defend against - and thus the compensation claims floodgates would then open.

[GoPosties78]

Does anybody know what the actual SISO procedure is? Posties in our office have been given the conduct procedure for missing a few sign in/outs. Our office has also had problems where posties have signed in but the system has said they haven’t. Are any other offices having the same problems with their SISO system?

[k979aaa]

Does anybody know what the actual SISO procedure is? Posties in our office have been given the conduct procedure for missing a few sign in/outs. Our office has also had problems where posties have signed in but the system has said they haven’t. Are any other offices having the same problems with their SISO system?

Don't think their is any agreement the two sides have not been talking for nearly a year so it is bull ask them to put it in writing but don't sign it.