stan_lers wrote: ↑28 Dec 2022, 18:38
drfeelgood wrote: ↑28 Dec 2022, 13:09
From the other side then, it’s a bit like all these so called experts, who are now being proved wrong on a daily basis, who produced all their scaremongering lies and stats, then the government coerced and mandated everyone to go along with their lies, and in the process created the perfect storm they had to give contracts to their mates eg Michelle Mone, Twatt Hancock to name 2! All attempts to disprove their lies was silenced!
As for conspiracy theories being made up with no evidence or logic, read up on the ‘World Climate Declaration’ and the ‘World Doctors Alliance’, these reports are based on evidenced scientific fact signed off by thousands of doctors and scientists across the world, but never get reported by the the controlled mainstream media as this evidence and fact does not fit the narrative. Don’t just read, and automatically ‘believe’ the mainstream media!
The World Climate Declaration was founded by a former Shell employee. Less than 1% of its signatories are climate scientists and many work for the fossil fuel industry. Others include fishermen (which besides having no relevant expertise, have a vested interest of their own against climate policies).
That's 1,000 random people in comparison to almost 100,000 climate scientist, all in agreement. And of course you'll tell me that the climate scientists are all in the pockets of the green lobby, even though your own "source" is basically the oil industry - the most powerful and richest industry in history.
The oil giants have themselves openly admitted to spending billions over the decades to spread misinformation about climate change, and this is exactly one such example.
As for Covid - yes the Tories used it to gift billions in public money to their friends. That's because the Tories are corrupt, just like when they sold us off. To say that that proves Covid was somehow a hoax is a ridiculous stretch. They capitalised on a pandemic and 100,000 British people dying as an excuse to make them and their friends a fortune. That in itself is a reason to get angry without reaching for conspiracy theories.
You have simpy googled the World Climate Declaration and used the same misinformation that the mainstream media eg Euronews, amongst many, has used in its desperate attempt to try and debunk the claims made by world reknowned and emminent professors and scientists who have signed this declaration. Emminent professors and scientists from all fields of science, including the fields of biophysics, biology, chemistry, physics and geology ie all the core scientific strands, and to have an understanding of climate science you need the core science that a rigourous scientific background gives you, so you are very wrong in assuming that the only people that matter and whose opinions are to be taken as gospel in this debate are 'climate scientists'. Climate Scientists mostly exist in Universities, Government think tanks, and Quangos, and they 'all' have a financial vested interest in perpetuating their version of events on climate change, they are utterly reliant on increased government funding for their very existence, so no conflict of interest there then eh! David Bellamy a very well known botanist/scientist who worked for the BBC for years was cancelled and removed from our screens when he dared to challenge the narrative on climate change, he challenged it as the scientific processes being used to promote the climate change 'religion' were not science in his very experienced view, a view shared by many who dare not speak up.
An example of this is a very close lifelong friend of mine who is a PhD level Environmental Scientist currently working with the UK Environment agency and he says he has to keep his personal views to himself about climate change or he would lose his job. He works in this field and does not believe the narrative, saying the climate change models used to continue this costly net zero agenda are scientifically flawed as they were for Covid ie Neil Fergusons model of half a million deaths from Covid, its not happened and never will. How is this and what has happened to many of the scientists who signed the World Climate Declaration ie in them losing their incomes and jobs for challenging the science, and what happened to David Bellamy, in the true pursuit of Science, it isnt! The Climate change cult members who say that the 'science is settled' on climate change are only being anti scientific by closing down all debate on the subject unless it agrees with them, this is not science.
The oil giants......blah blah.....Pfizers executive recently admitted that the covid vaccine neither prevents you getting covid or transmitting it, so whats the agenda then, its not about preventing Covid is it as the vaccines clearly dont do this. On Big Pharma, why are all medical schools in the UK sponsored by Big Pharma, and why do all GP Surgeries have a financial incentive to troll out Big Pharma products en masse, just asking before you bite, but thats another example of a financial conflict of interest, dont you think, another process and narrative that cannot be challenged.
It is all too cheap to blame so called conspiracy theories, when those so called conspiracy theories are simply more believable than the government propoganda, and are being proved to be much more accurate than the already mentioned 'government propoganda. To close down any debate on some of the most pressing issues of our time is anti scientific, and quite frankly criminal. As posties on relatively lower incomes than the national average wage it is people with our earning capacity who will suffer the most from the climate change zealots who are obsessed with moving us towards a very expensive and totally unneccessary NET ZERO agenda. It will not bother the millionaires and billionaires now making all the decisions to enslave us lower earners in a world we do not yet know, and I for one want to challenge all this before its too late.
Thats me done on this, but people really need to stop believing the vested interest parties who are beginning to exert their control on all of us, and read below the surface much more.