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TALKING COLLEAGUES OUT OF CROSSING THE PICKET LINE

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Re: TALKING COLLEAGUES OUT OF CROSSING THE PICKET LINE

Post by Caesar »

Along with those struggling financially there are also (or maybe just me) people who just don’t think that strikes are working.
At the moment the two sides couldn’t be further apart and now we are being asked to put our hands up in a no confidence vote.
Personally I am struggling to take part in any of this anymore.
When I saw the 23rd and 24th dec dates I knew that I would not be striking on those days, not for financial reasons but just because I planned to be part of the push to get peoples post to them before Xmas. I hoped for some sort of coming together by the two sides before then.
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Although at the moment I don't think we are going to win this battle I won't cross the picket line, that is my personal choice. However if others feel that they need to cross then that is up to them. Everyone's circumstances are different. Hopefully it ends this week and we can all go back to doing the job we are paid to do so everyone can have a good Christmas
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srilfc2013 wrote:
21 Nov 2022, 19:20
Although at the moment I don't think we are going to win this battle I won't cross the picket line, that is my personal choice. However if others feel that they need to cross then that is up to them. Everyone's circumstances are different. Hopefully it ends this week and we can all go back to doing the job we are paid to do so everyone can have a good Christmas
:Applause :Applause
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sindba wrote:
21 Nov 2022, 18:48
Chaz25 wrote:
21 Nov 2022, 07:12
Sorry all, I completely disagree- this needs to be an individuals decision, at the end of the day, it’s their livelihood that’s at steak, if you are unable to afford to strike and its having an impact financially that’s causing you to struggle to either pay your mortgage, rent provide for your family,pay bills,then what should really stop you from coming into work? If that’s the best decision for you, everyone needs to ease up, no one else is going to give you a days wages because you have stood at the picket line… by all means show your support, strike if & when you can, I’m not against it, but if you need to cross the picket line, that’s a individuals decision and they should be respected regardless of what they choose to do- especially in these tough time, just put yourselves in their shoes for a little…
Strike breakers should not be "respected". They don't deserve it.

They are undermining us while we are losing money fighting for THEIR rights.

Abuse them, never. Disrespect them, always.
What a bell end.
I would cross your picket line just to see if you have the balls to say that crap to my face.
Everyone has their own reasons to cross or not. This dispute has no sign of coming to a conclusion anytime soon. Its about having a roof over their children's head at the end of the week for many. No one should should be taking any credit for this still to be dragging out.
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Chaz25 wrote:
21 Nov 2022, 18:56
sindba wrote:
21 Nov 2022, 18:48
Chaz25 wrote:
21 Nov 2022, 07:12
Sorry all, I completely disagree- this needs to be an individuals decision, at the end of the day, it’s their livelihood that’s at steak, if you are unable to afford to strike and its having an impact financially that’s causing you to struggle to either pay your mortgage, rent provide for your family,pay bills,then what should really stop you from coming into work? If that’s the best decision for you, everyone needs to ease up, no one else is going to give you a days wages because you have stood at the picket line… by all means show your support, strike if & when you can, I’m not against it, but if you need to cross the picket line, that’s a individuals decision and they should be respected regardless of what they choose to do- especially in these tough time, just put yourselves in their shoes for a little…
Strike breakers should not be "respected". They don't deserve it.

They are undermining us while we are losing money fighting for THEIR rights.

Abuse them, never. Disrespect them, always.

This is such a big problem- exactly what I’m talking about- so I direct the question just to you, if one or multiple colleagues of yours is struggling financially- are you personally going to help them…them make it 10x worse by disrespecting them -really come on it’s pathetic.
There are plenty of low wage, insecure, gig economy jobs out there they could get tomorrow if they are really struggling.

We are making huge sacrifices fighting to stop their job becoming as bad as that.
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redlen wrote:
21 Nov 2022, 19:05
Statement from the CWU with the recent proposed settlement agreement

Royal Mail must commit to prioritising the removal of all agency staff before voluntary redundancies take place and confirm they will not hire new entrants across the business to replace existing workers who decide to take voluntary redundancy.

So the real reason behind the taciturn approach the CWU has taken toward supporting those CWU members who work for Angard (A wholly owned RMG Company) becomes apparent. They want RMG to commit to effectively depriving Angard staff of their employment and the means of earning a wage. Many Angard staff have worked in RM depots longer than direct hire RM staff, years most times Angard staff have in the main supported the IA and refused to cross picket lines much to their financial detriment in order to support their colleagues and friends yet here we have a Union blatantly stabbing fellow workers in the back. I repeat fellow communication workers and CWU members who have supported the IA. An utterly shameful move from the CWU leadership a thing that they consistently blame ST for doing. Utter Hypocrites. Angard staff are now aware of the contempt that the CWU leadership has for them. Do not be surprised if many highly experienced Angard staff cross the picket line should this week's planned IA begin. Remember, these Angard staff are multi-skilled and can cover every aspect of the operation. Combine these skilled staff with the recent huge influx of 'seasonal staff', who probably will cross picket lines, then the planned effect of the IA may be decimated. Also good luck with trying to convince pickets to talk their Angard colleagues out of crossing picket lines. I am sure the rank-and-file members will see how much of a hypocritical act this would be, especially as Dave Ward is on record advising workers working for the likes of Amazon to join a union. Why should they, Mr Ward? you'll just pocket their fees then stab them in the back.
ARE you in the union!
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srilfc2013 wrote:
21 Nov 2022, 19:20
Although at the moment I don't think we are going to win this battle I won't cross the picket line, that is my personal choice. However if others feel that they need to cross then that is up to them. Everyone's circumstances are different. Hopefully it ends this week and we can all go back to doing the job we are paid to do so everyone can have a good Christmas
Completely agree.

I won't have respect for people who do cross though. After all, I''m struggling losing money fighting for THEIR jobs.
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There are plenty of low wage, insecure, gig economy jobs out there they could get tomorrow if they are really struggling

Sindba you sound like Norman Tebbit :Applause .
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milly wrote:
21 Nov 2022, 20:00
There are plenty of low wage, insecure, gig economy jobs out there they could get tomorrow if they are really struggling

Sindba you sound like Norman Tebbit :Applause .
Nope. Just that if you want a crap, low paid job where you are treated like dirt you've got two choices.
1) leave now and get one
2) give up the fight, cross the line, and have one at Royal Mail soon
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Get on your E-Bikes and off the furlough and fill the holes the old farts graves for the holes they have dug for themselves!
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Cross picket line = accepting Thompson's deal = lose thousands of pounds per year, every year moving forward for the rest of your career. For the strike breakers, we are all struggling, we all have bills to pay to keep a roof over our heads, do not make out you are any more desperate than me.
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Most people on here will never ever meet simon Thompson but if one person in your office breaks a strike you will know about it!
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sindba wrote:
21 Nov 2022, 20:05
milly wrote:
21 Nov 2022, 20:00
There are plenty of low wage, insecure, gig economy jobs out there they could get tomorrow if they are really struggling

Sindba you sound like Norman Tebbit :Applause .
Nope. Just that if you want a crap, low paid job where you are treated like dirt you've got two choices.
1) leave now and get one
2) give up the fight, cross the line, and have one at Royal Mail soon
If anyone is tempted to to break the strike you need to take a leaf out of Norman Tebbitt's book and get on your bike and look for work!
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And that is exactly the mentality why strikes are no longer effective as they once were. Nice to see the CWU openly bullying their colleagues with a 1970s mentality. Look at the Miners strike for a history lesson.

Thugs never win

Who are you to dictate a persons financial situation?
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srilfc2013 wrote:
21 Nov 2022, 19:20
Although at the moment I don't think we are going to win this battle I won't cross the picket line, that is my personal choice. However if others feel that they need to cross then that is up to them. Everyone's circumstances are different. Hopefully it ends this week and we can all go back to doing the job we are paid to do so everyone can have a good Christmas
My sentiments exactly.

I don't know, I don't judge. And I don't treat anyone differently if they do cross the picket line as some already have.