10,000 jobs To go by august

[walthmstowman]

People are forgetting the pandemic . When lockdown was on everybody was doing more online shopping which increased the volume of parcel traffic. Management are comparing the peak of that volume with ordinary levels . Of course parcel traffic is down because people are back to work.

[RobertT]

https://www.gov.uk/calculate-your-redundancy-pay

That's the minimum they have to give you.

Many companies offer a premium as a incentive to go. RM have the MTSF agreement which currently provides much better outcomes. That was due to be looked at again in April 2023, but could be changed earlier considering they seem willing to rip everything else up.

There's a ready reckoner here: viewtopic.php?f=36&t=74407 to work out what you might get under MTSF.

Personally I think they'll probably offer less than MTSF but more than statutory.

[britwrit]

This strike provides a lot of cover for the stupid business decisions they've made. For example, a superhub strategy that needs unrealistic cuts in the rest of the company to even have a chance of working.

You have to wonder who this announcement was for? Large parts of the Tory press, to help convince the government to... Allow a sell-off? Reduce the USO?

[woofwoof]

The maximum amount of statutory redundancy pay is £16,320 (£16,980 in Northern Ireland)

[Dorset Plodder]

The Bet is: If you want Redundancy you won't get it! If you don't want it you may end up getting it! That's just Sod's Law

My advice would be if you want to leave, and you've got something else lined up ... go for it!

However if you think you're going to be able to sit around chilling out on your Redundancy Payment ... you may be dissapointed!

Any ammount of Redundancy soon dwindles away if you've got nothing coming in.

[timbo1234]

As I have posted on this forum before , Simon Thompson has a singular agenda. Destroy the CWU. He will play the bad guy as long as it takes. If he succeeds he will receive a golden pay off and go to his next job to do the same again. The CWU could agree to every change but they will keep coming. Only way is to stay strong and keep the pressure on. The rolling strike programme will have an instant impact and the major shareholders will cave in when they see their investment going down the toilet.

[pieoftheday]

The maximum amount of statutory redundancy pay is £16,320 (£16,980 in Northern Ireland)

Just worked mine out on another post , 36yrs, 52 yr old, £10700 ish, ooh what a life i could live, for 3 months....

[qwerty2]

I hope it's those lazy, useless non-drivers.

Halfwit I’ve got more than the blind driver

[Martin Walsh]

Royal Mail’s announcement today was a desperate attempt to try and scare people into not supporting the strikes.

Remember even if there was no strike and the company was honouring the pathway to change agreement there would still need to be voluntary redundancies on a similar scare in 2023..

Why ?

1.Productivity revisions
2 Processing realignments based on productivity
3. Removal of the Covid linked pillar boxes from collections
4.Network review
5. The impact from the Warrington hub and larger parcels.
6.That parcel traffic had returned to 2019 levels due to cost of living crisis and return to high street.

This is not even factoring in any potential change to the USO.


It was a deliberate ploy to intimidate individuals who had just been out on strike.

As someone who was in the talks in the summer it simply not true to say that Royal Mail was serious in resolving the issues.

However the 19 days of announced strikes have made them blink and there are now areas which are open for negotiation.

This weeks talks was about finding that out and next week will be about trying to negotiate. Long way to go but apart from the letter today , the talks were much more positive then during the summer.

As I said a long way to go.

[Clappedoutpostie]

However the 19 days of announced strikes have made them blink and there are now areas which are open for negotiation.

Martin from todays update to the stock market:

“The CWU has threatened, but not yet notified Royal Mail, of a further 16 days of strikes in November and December”

Why have they not yet been notified, what is the delay?

[britwrit]

Royal Mail’s announcement today was a desperate attempt to try and scare people into not supporting the strikes.

Remember even if there was no strike and the company was honouring the pathway to change agreement there would still need to be voluntary redundancies on a similar scare in 2023..

Why ?

1.Productivity revisions
2 Processing realignments based on productivity
3. Removal of the Covid linked pillar boxes from collections
4.Network review
5. The impact from the Warrington hub and larger parcels.
6.That parcel traffic had returned to 2019 levels due to cost of living crisis and return to high street.

This is not even factoring in any potential change to the USO.


It was a deliberate ploy to intimidate individuals who had just been out on strike.

As someone who was in the talks in the summer it simply not true to say that Royal Mail was serious in resolving the issues.

However the 19 days of announced strikes have made them blink and there are now areas which are open for negotiation.

This weeks talks was about finding that out and next week will be about trying to negotiate. Long way to go but apart from the letter today , the talks were much more positive then during the summer.

As I said a long way to go.

Oh, wow. Thank you very much for this. Real context and background is always welcome.

edit: Tone is hard to convey over a message board, but no, I actually mean this wholeheartedly.

[postieblueshirt]

Told you all this was coming.

Fortunately a fair few of us are glad and welcome this announcement and if done correctly it won't be a problem for those that are looking to stay.so no smug reply needed.

[aiden01]

Companies dont tend to announce things like this then say soz false alarm you can all stay.

You can say what you like when your days are numbered.

Ach come on please stop quoting him.

[aiden01]

Royal Mail’s announcement today was a desperate attempt to try and scare people into not supporting the strikes.

Remember even if there was no strike and the company was honouring the pathway to change agreement there would still need to be voluntary redundancies on a similar scare in 2023..

Why ?

1.Productivity revisions
2 Processing realignments based on productivity
3. Removal of the Covid linked pillar boxes from collections
4.Network review
5. The impact from the Warrington hub and larger parcels.
6.That parcel traffic had returned to 2019 levels due to cost of living crisis and return to high street.

This is not even factoring in any potential change to the USO.


It was a deliberate ploy to intimidate individuals who had just been out on strike.

As someone who was in the talks in the summer it simply not true to say that Royal Mail was serious in resolving the issues.

However the 19 days of announced strikes have made them blink and there are now areas which are open for negotiation.

This weeks talks was about finding that out and next week will be about trying to negotiate. Long way to go but apart from the letter today , the talks were much more positive then during the summer.

As I said a long way to go.

Martin can you explain the letter anthony bouch put out on tues is he involved in negotiations or just like simon trying to wind members up with a little bit of hope.. be very surprised if you reply.

[k979aaa]

No deal is better than a bad deal we can just keep disrupting the royal mail forever we need this addressing though redundancies should be communicated to the union before the staff was this done if not they broke the law of the land and have caused unnecessary angst with workers in the royal mail. Could we pursue a claim for not informing the union of their intentions for redundancy of failure to notify the union first and the way they announced it too the media first without informing anyone by letter who may be affected. They the ROYAL MAIL once again have broke the law of the land by announcing this have they not without informing us before the media!