Ot banned in our office this morning

[guardianangel]

One week after O/T ban and our office looks like Hiroshima,boxes and boxes of mail stacked up under and over and beside frames,think it might take to the 25 december to clear it ,whose bright idea was it to stop overtime in the busiest time of year,Thompson needs sacking he could of cost companies millions as their xmas magazines and catalogues will reach customers too late and who have already purchased gifts elsewhere what an absolute tool the bloke may have cost the economy billions,he should be imprisoned.

[POSTPERSON50]

One week after O/T ban and our office looks like Hiroshima,boxes and boxes of mail stacked up under and over and beside frames,think it might take to the 25 december to clear it ,whose bright idea was it to stop overtime in the busiest time of year,Thompson needs sacking he could of cost companies millions as their xmas magazines and catalogues will reach customers too late and who have already purchased gifts elsewhere what an absolute tool the bloke may have cost the economy billions,he should be imprisoned.

And this is without strike days.
If we do strike for 2 days then return to work, the shite will be just piled up higher and higher.
The public will expect to be getting mail daily because we are back at work, but only a fraction of it will be going out. However, the mail will still be moving to some degree.
I don't see how that situation would win us a dispute.
It just makes for a terrible service and lighter pockets for us

[Dorset Plodder]

The long time posties in my office all spout they are on some old time start times & then drop in "The extra mile" & "Look after the customers" & "Quality of service" they have all been here since school & know no better

I also find the Guys that have ONLY ever worked for RM (some since leaving school FFS) also spout this bollocks!

Just goes to show how effective brain washing can be. When Covid hit and we were failing half a dozen walks daily (we're not a large Office) these Old Guys were nearly in tears because, "We've let our Customers down", the Rep just said, "Feel Free to take out two duties worth of mail if it worries you that much"! Didn't have any takers surprisingly! .

[twoloops]

Not your problem you have a start & finish time, let it pile up

[Dorset Plodder]

And this is without strike days.
If we do strike for 2 days then return to work, the shite will be just piled up higher and higher.
The public will expect to be getting mail daily because we are back at work, but only a fraction of it will be going out. However, the mail will still be moving to some degree.
I don't see how that situation would win us a dispute.
It just makes for a terrible service and lighter pockets for us

So what do you suggest we do then? NOT STRIKE? Then you'll be providing a better service and not lose any money?

Do you not think that you're already losing money because you've ONLY been given a 2% payrise that's under inflation, so you're already working for less than you were last year. And IF you accepted the crappy 7% deal going into next year you'd still be losing money PLUS you'd be getting shafted over all the other changes to T&Cs!

The Strikes are not designed to build up a back log of mail, that's just a consequence. They're designed to build up pressure on the CEO! In this they've been sucessfull in that he's now back at the negotiating table.

[2yearpostie]

so you're already working for less than you were last year. And IF you accepted the crappy 7% deal going into next year you'd still be losing money PLUS you'd be getting shafted over all the other changes to T&Cs!

No, we are working for 2% more than last year, unfortunatley everything costs more than that so it dosent go as far.

[guardianangel]

One week after O/T ban and our office looks like Hiroshima,boxes and boxes of mail stacked up under and over and beside frames,think it might take to the 25 december to clear it ,whose bright idea was it to stop overtime in the busiest time of year,Thompson needs sacking he could of cost companies millions as their xmas magazines and catalogues will reach customers too late and who have already purchased gifts elsewhere what an absolute tool the bloke may have cost the economy billions,he should be imprisoned.

And this is without strike days.
If we do strike for 2 days then return to work, the shite will be just piled up higher and higher.
The public will expect to be getting mail daily because we are back at work, but only a fraction of it will be going out. However, the mail will still be moving to some degree.
I don't see how that situation would win us a dispute.
It just makes for a terrible service and lighter pockets for us

Come back after the strike and don't do overtime,take no notice of their threats,the bigger the mess the more chance of a resolution and a deal,we need to stop panicking about their threats they are there to break us ,stay strong,if the worse ever happens just remember there are plenty of jobs for the working class not so many for managers they have more to worry about than us.

[clashcityrocker]

One week after O/T ban and our office looks like Hiroshima, boxes and boxes of mail stacked up under and over and beside frames,

I am not sure that one of the effects of detonating a nuclear bomb over Hiroshima was that boxes and boxes of mail got stacked up beside frames.
Perhaps I have always been too busy looking at the mushroom cloud to notice the state of the delivery offices.

[POSTPERSON50]

And this is without strike days.
If we do strike for 2 days then return to work, the shite will be just piled up higher and higher.
The public will expect to be getting mail daily because we are back at work, but only a fraction of it will be going out. However, the mail will still be moving to some degree.
I don't see how that situation would win us a dispute.
It just makes for a terrible service and lighter pockets for us

So what do you suggest we do then? NOT STRIKE? Then you'll be providing a better service and not lose any money?

Do you not think that you're already losing money because you've ONLY been given a 2% payrise that's under inflation, so you're already working for less than you were last year. And IF you accepted the crappy 7% deal going into next year you'd still be losing money PLUS you'd be getting shafted over all the other changes to T&Cs!

The Strikes are not designed to build up a back log of mail, that's just a consequence. They're designed to build up pressure on the CEO! In this they've been sucessfull in that he's now back at the negotiating table.

No, strike once. And strike decisively for a week. Stop pissing about with daft pointless ineffectual odd days.

No better pressure on the CEO than the mail stopping entirely.

[claretandblue]

An overtime ban would have done more damage than any strike.

[POSTPERSON50]

An overtime ban would have done more damage than any strike.

Probably, as the strike action so far has barely caused a ripple

[claretandblue]

An overtime ban would have done more damage than any strike.

Probably, as the strike action so far has barely caused a ripple

Exactly, 3 days of no overtime has caused more damage than all the strike days put together.

[POSTPERSON50]

An overtime ban would have done more damage than any strike.

Probably, as the strike action so far has barely caused a ripple

Exactly, 3 days of no overtime has caused more damage than all the strike days put together.

Those proposed 'intense talks' are a smokescreen. No way on God's earth will Thompson backtrack on anything that he's already decided is definitely going to happen.
We don't want a halfway compromise anyway.
50% of a shite future is still a shite future.
We cannot agree to any of his bollocks.

[Clappedoutpostie]

Probably, as the strike action so far has barely caused a ripple

That’s clearly not true as even the mention of strike dates has large customers switching to other couriers, the rolling strike dates would have had an impact even though they didn’t happen.

I’m in the middle on a work to rule/OT ban, whilst I’m not doing any myself I can see why people are. We don’t want people starving, premium products would still be delivered even with a work to rule.

[Dorset Plodder]

No, strike once. And strike decisively for a week. Stop pissing about with daft pointless ineffectual odd days.

No better pressure on the CEO than the mail stopping entirely.

Well at least that's an opinion that I can respect. Although your posts come across as quite contradictory. One minute you're concerned about the quality of service and that you're losing money, next your very militant and want a whole weeks strike, then your worried the CWU will get us a shite deal!

I suggest you let our Negotiators do their job. They may not get everything we want but they'll get a damn sight more than ST wants to give us!