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Thompsons view of the talks

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Re: Thompsons view of the talks

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The man is a political tool.
Quite literally.
Trashing a company. Thompson Out!
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CRIBMAD wrote:
16 Oct 2022, 19:53
jagger wrote:
16 Oct 2022, 19:41
All, or most, I would presume.
But if CWU don’t tell us we won’t know.

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Which bit?
You rant a lot, but don’t make yourself very clear.
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sfxdby wrote:
16 Oct 2022, 21:13
The man is a political tool.
Quite literally.
Trashing a company. Thompson Out!
Do he and Liz Truss share a bloodline?
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Re: Thompsons view of the talks

Post by Martin Walsh »

There has not been any new pay offer as yet.

It is still 2% imposed

1.5% linked to all the changes they want .

And then an I consolidated lump sum ( not to your pay ) of up to £500 but based on a bonus scheme which is linked to work hours and traffic where even when we were in the room in negotiations , Royal Mail said that only circa 40% at that moment would achieve it.

To achieve it every unit would have to overachieve their revision target and their processing realignment targets. If you have seen your year 2 revision target you will know this is pie in the sky stuff.
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Martin Walsh wrote:
17 Oct 2022, 07:23
There has not been any new pay offer as yet.

It is still 2% imposed

1.5% linked to all the changes they want .

And then an I consolidated lump sum ( not to your pay ) of up to £500 but based on a bonus scheme which is linked to work hours and traffic where even when we were in the room in negotiations , Royal Mail said that only circa 40% at that moment would achieve it.

To achieve it every unit would have to overachieve their revision target and their processing realignment targets. If you have seen your year 2 revision target you will know this is pie in the sky stuff.
Are talks still planned for this week or what ?
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Re: Thompsons view of the talks

Post by Martin Walsh »

Yes talks are planned all week apart from the strike day Thursday. What is bizarre is those in the room from Royal Mail Rick Maculey, Stuart Mcdonald and Nick Dunn have entered into much more positive dialogue then the CEO and must be embarrassed that their CEO is engaging in some kind of social media battle.
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borders wrote:
16 Oct 2022, 11:51
We think it’s worth every CWU member in Royal Mail Group reading, liking and sharing this post.
Tony Bouch CWU NEC posted this on Workplace today. Bravo, Tony 👏

6. Seen the company share price drop to its lowest value ever.
Is this really true ? Wasn't it much lower under Rico.
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tractorboy2 wrote:
17 Oct 2022, 10:12
borders wrote:
16 Oct 2022, 11:51
We think it’s worth every CWU member in Royal Mail Group reading, liking and sharing this post.
Tony Bouch CWU NEC posted this on Workplace today. Bravo, Tony 👏

6. Seen the company share price drop to its lowest value ever.
Is this really true ? Wasn't it much lower under Rico.
Think it dropped to £1-06 under rico?
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Re: Thompsons view of the talks

Post by Tom71 »

timbo1234 wrote:
16 Oct 2022, 17:15
Simon's rants are very similar to those of Donald Trump at the end of his presidency. He is in denial and keeps spouting rubbish that nobody other than him believes. He seems unable to stick with any serious agenda to solve the dispute. He appears to be enjoying the whole thing. People like him and Donald Trump operate in their world with a group of sycophantic followers who bolster their ego. Weird.
I did not intend to speak about the strike, but I cannot pass by when someone manipulated by media propaganda has made a comment comparing the CEO to President D Trump. This is proof of your ignorance of what is happening in the USA. I understand, of course, that you are a faithful listener of the BBC's left-wing narrative and your ultimate dream has probably been and still is to live in a communist country.
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6. Seen the company share price drop to its lowest value ever.
7. Overseen and been in charge which has seen the transformation of a company producing £758 million profits, to now announcing an adjusted operating loss of £219 million (2021/22 was £235m profit).
Neither of those points are correct.

The share price was lower under Rico Back.

The operating loss is only to do with Royal Mail. GLS is on target to make £350 million profit.

Tony Bouch who is a member of the Postal Executive with the CWU shouldn't he keep himself more informed. It's things like this that devalue what the union stand for.
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Martin Walsh wrote:
17 Oct 2022, 07:23
There has not been any new pay offer as yet.

It is still 2% imposed

1.5% linked to all the changes they want .

And then an I consolidated lump sum ( not to your pay ) of up to £500 but based on a bonus scheme which is linked to work hours and traffic where even when we were in the room in negotiations , Royal Mail said that only circa 40% at that moment would achieve it.

To achieve it every unit would have to overachieve their revision target and their processing realignment targets. If you have seen your year 2 revision target you will know this is pie in the sky stuff.
So exactly the same as before and NO movement at all then!
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Re: Thompsons view of the talks

Post by Woody Guthrie »

POSTMAN wrote:
17 Oct 2022, 11:21
Martin Walsh wrote:
17 Oct 2022, 07:23
There has not been any new pay offer as yet.

It is still 2% imposed

1.5% linked to all the changes they want .

And then an I consolidated lump sum ( not to your pay ) of up to £500 but based on a bonus scheme which is linked to work hours and traffic where even when we were in the room in negotiations , Royal Mail said that only circa 40% at that moment would achieve it.

To achieve it every unit would have to overachieve their revision target and their processing realignment targets. If you have seen your year 2 revision target you will know this is pie in the sky stuff.
So exactly the same as before and NO movement at all then!
... as yet
Only dead fish follow the current
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Re: Thompsons view of the talks

Post by chrisj »

The whole social media shenanigans devalues both sides. Simon Thomson does let himself down quite a lot but you cannot say you don't know what he is about and what he wants.

On the other hand, the CWU Twitter and Facebook outputs are just beyond the pale; if people not already riled, it is not helping; the language is appalling...

One of the post on twitter today was widely panned by the contributors; perhaps that was because the ultras in delivery are busy but public support is not fully there
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At least the CWU can count Chris..
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As far as I'm aware we were privatised in 2013.
It's a bit worrying that a CEO can't subtract 13 from 22.
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Re: Thompsons view of the talks

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chrisj wrote:
17 Oct 2022, 14:46
perhaps that was because the ultras in delivery are busy
Giving a group of people a derogatory name in an attempt to devalue their contribution to the debate is bullying Chris.

Were you not whining about that just the other day?
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