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Ward now wants rid of 6 day USO?

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ANDREW CROCOMBE
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Re: Ward now wants rid of 6 day USO?

Post by ANDREW CROCOMBE »

Ward is now Royal Mail's puppet, being controlled by those above - do what we say, or else. If the company were run like a top parcel company with cracking technology - to sort parcels into walks - and maybe the letters side had their separate MC - then we could be great BUT the blood sucking shareholders still linger, awaiting their riches, get rid and things may change. Dream of Mon - Fri with wknds off, but I ain't that lucky.
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Re: Ward now wants rid of 6 day USO?

Post by Wullie10 »

For the past year posties have been moaning about later finishing. Working in the dark. Rounds too large. Exhausted etc etc. But I don't see how getting rid of Saturdays will change any of that. The rounds will be larger and take longer. Granted a proper weekend would be nice if you can stay awake long enough to enjoy it.
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Re: Ward now wants rid of 6 day USO?

Post by SpacePhoenix »

ANDREW CROCOMBE wrote:
06 Jul 2023, 19:04
Ward is now Royal Mail's puppet, being controlled by those above - do what we say, or else. If the company were run like a top parcel company with cracking technology - to sort parcels into walks - and maybe the letters side had their separate MC - then we could be great BUT the blood sucking shareholders still linger, awaiting their riches, get rid and things may change. Dream of Mon - Fri with wknds off, but I ain't that lucky.
With that plan you'd probably have just 2-3 MCs doing letters with with the time needed to sequence all batches, DOs would get their work MUCH later
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Re: Ward now wants rid of 6 day USO?

Post by roman »

This a ploy from the c w u to try and soften the inevitable blow of much later starts. A kind of trade off. Work til 4 to 5 pm in the winter and we’ll give you the Saturday off.Basically just a normal hours job.
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Re: Ward now wants rid of 6 day USO?

Post by world class male »

aiden01 wrote:
06 Jul 2023, 00:11
moonjaguar wrote:
05 Jul 2023, 22:44
Thanks. Late finishes means I can't do the school run so the job will be over for me. Might as well be off for the rest of July. Look for a better job and still get paid.
Good luck getting a job that allows school .finishes
loads of day shift 6-2 factory work
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Re: Ward now wants rid of 6 day USO?

Post by Seymour Buts »

Dexydog wrote:
05 Jul 2023, 11:33
Had a count up yesterday.
Out of 1400 delivery points over 2 walks, there were 146 tracked items.
It will soon get the point where tracked will outnumber letters, seriously.
The management's answer to the problem was try and deliver all the tracked, specials(7), boxes (4), and customer collections (6), and redeliver (12).
Making 175 calls before even touching a letter, because we treat all mail the same, yeah sure.
Tied mail to tracked, rest of walk points forget it.
20 or so tracked dumped on managers desk on return, no thanks to overtime
Rinse and repeat.
The job is gone in its current form.
Knocking Saturdays off won't make a blind bit of difference, other than all the tracked won't get done.
Why wouldn't you just deliver the tracked as you went? We keep the tracked for the last couple of loops separate, meaning if we cut off we just leave enough time to complete the few tracked we have left and return the letters. Doing everything your way is effectively doing the round twice.
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Re: Ward now wants rid of 6 day USO?

Post by LouBarlow »

world class male wrote:
06 Jul 2023, 20:22
aiden01 wrote:
06 Jul 2023, 00:11
moonjaguar wrote:
05 Jul 2023, 22:44
Thanks. Late finishes means I can't do the school run so the job will be over for me. Might as well be off for the rest of July. Look for a better job and still get paid.
Good luck getting a job that allows school .finishes
loads of day shift 6-2 factory work
You might as well keep the job with RM as by the time you pay for an after school club you will still be earning more than minimum wage in a factory. A factory that will not have anywhere near our T&Cs even after the agreement.

Also how are you dropping your kids off at school before your 6am start? Confusing.
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Re: Ward now wants rid of 6 day USO?

Post by postieblueshirt »

Seymour Buts wrote:
06 Jul 2023, 21:22
Dexydog wrote:
05 Jul 2023, 11:33
Had a count up yesterday.
Out of 1400 delivery points over 2 walks, there were 146 tracked items.
It will soon get the point where tracked will outnumber letters, seriously.
The management's answer to the problem was try and deliver all the tracked, specials(7), boxes (4), and customer collections (6), and redeliver (12).
Making 175 calls before even touching a letter, because we treat all mail the same, yeah sure.
Tied mail to tracked, rest of walk points forget it.
20 or so tracked dumped on managers desk on return, no thanks to overtime
Rinse and repeat.
The job is gone in its current form.
Knocking Saturdays off won't make a blind bit of difference, other than all the tracked won't get done.
Why wouldn't you just deliver the tracked as you went? We keep the tracked for the last couple of loops separate, meaning if we cut off we just leave enough time to complete the few tracked we have left and return the letters. Doing everything your way is effectively doing the round twice.
Why would you prioritize tracked that's not royal mail policy unless they are all huge as only large tracked in an office are a health and safety issue do to space.
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Re: Ward now wants rid of 6 day USO?

Post by Dexydog »

We do as directed.
170 odd calls in a four and a half hour delivery span is plenty, even for 2 people and one van.
There literally was no time to do any letters other than the ones we put with the tracked items.
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Re: Ward now wants rid of 6 day USO?

Post by aiden01 »

world class male wrote:
06 Jul 2023, 20:22
aiden01 wrote:
06 Jul 2023, 00:11
moonjaguar wrote:
05 Jul 2023, 22:44
Thanks. Late finishes means I can't do the school run so the job will be over for me. Might as well be off for the rest of July. Look for a better job and still get paid.
Good luck getting a job that allows school .finishes
loads of day shift 6-2 factory work
Take it you do not do school run then.
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Re: Ward now wants rid of 6 day USO?

Post by citypostie »

Dexydog wrote:
06 Jul 2023, 22:17
We do as directed.
170 odd calls in a four and a half hour delivery span is plenty, even for 2 people and one van.
There literally was no time to do any letters other than the ones we put with the tracked items.
Why would you both drive round doing parcels? Why can't one do them while the other takes a trolley and delivers some mail?

That's what my manager would say , no way would he let 2 people drive round doing parcels together
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Re: Ward now wants rid of 6 day USO?

Post by Numberone63 »

170 knock ons is enough for two people. Opposite sides of the streets. The company is doomed. DOOMED I TELL YAH!!!!!!
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Re: Ward now wants rid of 6 day USO?

Post by k979aaa »

Ending the six day USO is not the same as Monday to Friday it may be a rota system ie parcels and letters. Non of this is in our favour as they could cut the workforce by 1 in 6 or 18%. Fact is this will not stop and it will be every two days and once a week or month going on eventually. The reduction of the uso is the new lapsing/absorption/bonus creation project!
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Re: Ward now wants rid of 6 day USO?

Post by Haditup »

k979aaa wrote:
08 Jul 2023, 00:41
Ending the six day USO is not the same as Monday to Friday it may be a rota system ie parcels and letters. Non of this is in our favour as they could cut the workforce by 1 in 6 or 18%. Fact is this will not stop and it will be every two days and once a week or month going on eventually. The reduction of the uso is the new lapsing/absorption/bonus creation project!
Bang on k979aaa, it will be a demise of daily letters ,further be reduced which can only mean one thing ,MASSIVE job losses.
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Re: Ward now wants rid of 6 day USO?

Post by Kenfandango »

School run: most of us with kids have it set up so we work the mornings and partners work later. A 6am-2pm warehouse job, even on minimum wage, would be better than RM wages plus after school fees.
And if you started within the last 2-3 years your "terms and conditions" aren't really that different to anywhere else... Except for the fact that the other jobs I've had (non-unionised) have all specified days and times in the contract, rather than an open ended 24/7 period the company can alter at will