Payrise

[RTP]

Day 7 of no new payrise.

This week the new NI deductions kick in, so as from tomorrow for those on weekly pay our basic takehome pay will have actually gone down....

I think im right in thinking that actually we’ll be slightly better off over the course of the year despite the new NI thing? Cant remember how to explain it but saw it explained on tv yesterday.

Correct, the amount you earn until NI kicks in will be higher from July. Anyone earning 34k or lower will gain.

That is then, this is now.

[daveyeff]

8%....just seen it.

[mjd24]

Day 7 of no new payrise.

This week the new NI deductions kick in, so as from tomorrow for those on weekly pay our basic takehome pay will have actually gone down....

I think im right in thinking that actually we’ll be slightly better off over the course of the year despite the new NI thing? Cant remember how to explain it but saw it explained on tv yesterday.

Correct, the amount you earn until NI kicks in will be higher from July. Anyone earning 34k or lower will gain.

That is then, this is now.

Point is over the course of the financial year you will be better off.

[mjd24]

8%....just seen it.

Seen what?

[daveyeff]

bt offered 8%

[daveyeff]

was the BT offer a 1 year no strings paydeal though?

[yellowbelly]

Day 7 of no new payrise.

This week the new NI deductions kick in, so as from tomorrow for those on weekly pay our basic takehome pay will have actually gone down....

I think im right in thinking that actually we’ll be slightly better off over the course of the year despite the new NI thing? Cant remember how to explain it but saw it explained on tv yesterday.

Correct, the amount you earn until NI kicks in will be higher from July. Anyone earning 34k or lower will gain.

That is then, this is now.

Point is over the course of the financial year you will be better off.

When you mean better off you mean that some will pay less NI over the year than they did previously.

I doubt many people will be 'better off' at the end of the FY with the latest RPI being 8.2%.

[mjd24]

Day 7 of no new payrise.

This week the new NI deductions kick in, so as from tomorrow for those on weekly pay our basic takehome pay will have actually gone down....

I think im right in thinking that actually we’ll be slightly better off over the course of the year despite the new NI thing? Cant remember how to explain it but saw it explained on tv yesterday.

Correct, the amount you earn until NI kicks in will be higher from July. Anyone earning 34k or lower will gain.

That is then, this is now.

Point is over the course of the financial year you will be better off.

When you mean better off you mean that some will pay less NI over the year than they did previously.

I doubt many people will be 'better off' at the end of the FY with the latest RPI being 8.2%.

Indeed.

[daveyeff]

the thing about our paydeal though and BT's is....Terry Pullinger heads our negotiating team. the BT side have their own negotiators. so we'll probs get the usual 3.5% over 3 years.

[Woody Guthrie]

bt offered 8%

As far as I'm aware BT are not offering anything, they intend to impose a flat rate £1500 pay rise across the board which may be worth 8% to some lower paid members but as little as 5% obviously if you're on £30k and even less the higher grade you are.

It's a nasty tactic and pretty much designed to divide the staff.

Beware, Royal Mail will be watching to see how this plays out.

[aiden01]

the thing about our paydeal though and BT's is....Terry Pullinger heads our negotiating team. the BT side have their own negotiators. so we'll probs get the usual 3.5% over 3 years.

Cwu rejected bt pay deal?

[daveyeff]

Yes....calling it "insulting" and a "relative pay cut"

[daveyeff]

Going by dorset plodders post anyways. No reason to doubt it.

[Dorset Plodder]

Going by dorset plodders post anyways. No reason to doubt it.

I saw it on the Guardian's website for reference.

[priority102]

27 pages on here of thoughts on the pay deal and the reality is that no one knows what will eventually come out.

BUT, when a deal does eventually get negotiated, the one thing that must at the forefront of your minds when reading it and deciding whether you are going to vote for or against it, is that you MUST, MUST look BEYOND the pay percentage rise and back pay amounts.

Because believe me, RM will want quite a bit back from you in return! Simon is having his strings well and truly pulled by the accountants and shareholders, the management cull and restructure is simply one example of what the company wants back, going forward.

He seems to be making a big thing out of sickness levels and cost now - don't be surprised if that's in the "in return" part of the deal. Slowly but surely members are voting away their terms and conditions in favour of cash - NDA/Saturday Premiums/van driving allowance/PHG allowance/D2D payments
are just an example of what comes to mind.

The CWU can only put the deal to you to accept or reject - if you vote it in then don't blame them when the company want their part of the deal back after you've had the backpay and wage increase.