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LTB 075/25 - Update on USO Pilot Sites

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hewittinspain
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Re: LTB 075/25 - Update on USO Pilot Sites

Post by hewittinspain »

Mikeb99 wrote:
10 Jun 2025, 20:09
As I already said, we are already rotating walks regularly and making it work. Our proposed walks if the USO reform comes in will see 2 walks put back into the office meaning my workload will actually reduce from what it is now.
In addition the extra Saturday off every 6 weeks that we will be getting will mean each day we do work will be about 15 minutes longer than it is now allowing even more time to complete.
Maybe the regular contributors to this forum who do nothing but complain are a self selecting group of failures who choose to blame the hand that feeds them or the union that represents them rather than accept their own inability.
Incidentally I am not a manager, I’m a postman in my mid 50’s who remembers the good old days of 2nd deliveries and bikes but realises that those days are gone and that nobody owes us a living - we have to earn it and I personally quite enjoy my job.
Let me ask a genuine question. Most walks in our office have lately been scanning in between 120-170 tracked a day (some over 200) and that is across two walks. Just say for example there are a further 40 1st class letters, a further 30 non tracked including smaller packets that will go through the letterbox and then 3 special deliveries so that will equal to around 220 van drops. How will that postie make that work? If you have 5 hours on duty that's about 45 drops per hr (or one drop per 90 seconds). Including that time you will have 3 boxes to collect and 2 customer collections. Bear in mind we have to drive a van sensibly without the trimble sounding all the time. There is also busy roads to take into account daily.
This is the reality. How do you overcome that when you are the nominated packet driver for that week? How can a person deliver 45 packets in that hour bearing in mind you have to knock once and then knock again and wait for the customer.
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Re: LTB 075/25 - Update on USO Pilot Sites

Post by jbo5066 »

Because now they are being told to only take a first class letter where they have tracked and leave standard packets.
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Re: LTB 075/25 - Update on USO Pilot Sites

Post by TopperGas »

hewittinspain wrote:
11 Jun 2025, 19:00
Mikeb99 wrote:
10 Jun 2025, 20:09
As I already said, we are already rotating walks regularly and making it work. Our proposed walks if the USO reform comes in will see 2 walks put back into the office meaning my workload will actually reduce from what it is now.
In addition the extra Saturday off every 6 weeks that we will be getting will mean each day we do work will be about 15 minutes longer than it is now allowing even more time to complete.
Maybe the regular contributors to this forum who do nothing but complain are a self selecting group of failures who choose to blame the hand that feeds them or the union that represents them rather than accept their own inability.
Incidentally I am not a manager, I’m a postman in my mid 50’s who remembers the good old days of 2nd deliveries and bikes but realises that those days are gone and that nobody owes us a living - we have to earn it and I personally quite enjoy my job.
Let me ask a genuine question. Most walks in our office have lately been scanning in between 120-170 tracked a day (some over 200) and that is across two walks. Just say for example there are a further 40 1st class letters, a further 30 non tracked including smaller packets that will go through the letterbox and then 3 special deliveries so that will equal to around 220 van drops. How will that postie make that work? If you have 5 hours on duty that's about 45 drops per hr (or one drop per 90 seconds). Including that time you will have 3 boxes to collect and 2 customer collections. Bear in mind we have to drive a van sensibly without the trimble sounding all the time. There is also busy roads to take into account daily.
This is the reality. How do you overcome that when you are the nominated packet driver for that week? How can a person deliver 45 packets in that hour bearing in mind you have to knock once and then knock again and wait for the customer.
It sounds like the packet driver is coping with the extra work load in the pilot offices it's the mail posties struggling with two days mail each day? Unless the 30 non tracked are all 1c fpr some odd reason there's no need to deliver them,that's the mail posties job? From my own experience delivering Tracked and Specials across for two duties is not that big a task, outside of peak anyway,
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Re: LTB 075/25 - Update on USO Pilot Sites

Post by hewittinspain »

TopperGas wrote:
11 Jun 2025, 20:00
hewittinspain wrote:
11 Jun 2025, 19:00
Mikeb99 wrote:
10 Jun 2025, 20:09
As I already said, we are already rotating walks regularly and making it work. Our proposed walks if the USO reform comes in will see 2 walks put back into the office meaning my workload will actually reduce from what it is now.
In addition the extra Saturday off every 6 weeks that we will be getting will mean each day we do work will be about 15 minutes longer than it is now allowing even more time to complete.
Maybe the regular contributors to this forum who do nothing but complain are a self selecting group of failures who choose to blame the hand that feeds them or the union that represents them rather than accept their own inability.
Incidentally I am not a manager, I’m a postman in my mid 50’s who remembers the good old days of 2nd deliveries and bikes but realises that those days are gone and that nobody owes us a living - we have to earn it and I personally quite enjoy my job.
Let me ask a genuine question. Most walks in our office have lately been scanning in between 120-170 tracked a day (some over 200) and that is across two walks. Just say for example there are a further 40 1st class letters, a further 30 non tracked including smaller packets that will go through the letterbox and then 3 special deliveries so that will equal to around 220 van drops. How will that postie make that work? If you have 5 hours on duty that's about 45 drops per hr (or one drop per 90 seconds). Including that time you will have 3 boxes to collect and 2 customer collections. Bear in mind we have to drive a van sensibly without the trimble sounding all the time. There is also busy roads to take into account daily.
This is the reality. How do you overcome that when you are the nominated packet driver for that week? How can a person deliver 45 packets in that hour bearing in mind you have to knock once and then knock again and wait for the customer.
It sounds like the packet driver is coping with the extra work load in the pilot offices it's the mail posties struggling with two days mail each day? Unless the 30 non tracked are all 1c fpr some odd reason there's no need to deliver them,that's the mail posties job? From my own experience delivering Tracked and Specials across for two duties is not that big a task, outside of peak anyway,
How would it be the postie's job to deliver the remaining 1C packets? If 2 posties are on round A and B then the packet driver would be on round C and D doing all packets and 1C so he would also be delivering the 1C parcels on round C and D as well as all the tracked and specials
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Re: LTB 075/25 - Update on USO Pilot Sites

Post by Valentina@1 »

Management gonna make up these USO rules as they go along by sounds of it.
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Re: LTB 075/25 - Update on USO Pilot Sites

Post by TopperGas »

hewittinspain wrote:
11 Jun 2025, 21:15
TopperGas wrote:
11 Jun 2025, 20:00
hewittinspain wrote:
11 Jun 2025, 19:00
Mikeb99 wrote:
10 Jun 2025, 20:09
As I already said, we are already rotating walks regularly and making it work. Our proposed walks if the USO reform comes in will see 2 walks put back into the office meaning my workload will actually reduce from what it is now.
In addition the extra Saturday off every 6 weeks that we will be getting will mean each day we do work will be about 15 minutes longer than it is now allowing even more time to complete.
Maybe the regular contributors to this forum who do nothing but complain are a self selecting group of failures who choose to blame the hand that feeds them or the union that represents them rather than accept their own inability.
Incidentally I am not a manager, I’m a postman in my mid 50’s who remembers the good old days of 2nd deliveries and bikes but realises that those days are gone and that nobody owes us a living - we have to earn it and I personally quite enjoy my job.
Let me ask a genuine question. Most walks in our office have lately been scanning in between 120-170 tracked a day (some over 200) and that is across two walks. Just say for example there are a further 40 1st class letters, a further 30 non tracked including smaller packets that will go through the letterbox and then 3 special deliveries so that will equal to around 220 van drops. How will that postie make that work? If you have 5 hours on duty that's about 45 drops per hr (or one drop per 90 seconds). Including that time you will have 3 boxes to collect and 2 customer collections. Bear in mind we have to drive a van sensibly without the trimble sounding all the time. There is also busy roads to take into account daily.
This is the reality. How do you overcome that when you are the nominated packet driver for that week? How can a person deliver 45 packets in that hour bearing in mind you have to knock once and then knock again and wait for the customer.
It sounds like the packet driver is coping with the extra work load in the pilot offices it's the mail posties struggling with two days mail each day? Unless the 30 non tracked are all 1c fpr some odd reason there's no need to deliver them,that's the mail posties job? From my own experience delivering Tracked and Specials across for two duties is not that big a task, outside of peak anyway,
How would it be the postie's job to deliver the remaining 1C packets? If 2 posties are on round A and B then the packet driver would be on round C and D doing all packets and 1C so he would also be delivering the 1C parcels on round C and D as well as all the tracked and specials
Your OP clearly stated "30 non tracked" not that they were 1c, regardless there's no way anybody would get 30 1c non tracked packets to deliver at present, most are either 2c or RM48 non tracked.
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Re: LTB 075/25 - Update on USO Pilot Sites

Post by A2B »

Anyone got any news from Southend? Went live last week and apparently in meltdown
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Re: LTB 075/25 - Update on USO Pilot Sites

Post by Mr Rush »

A2B wrote:
18 Jun 2025, 15:20
Anyone got any news from Southend? Went live last week and apparently in meltdown
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