LTB 166/23 - Royal Mail's Customer Service Points (CSPs) - Further Reduction In Opening Times

[LouBarlow]

The yessers will just say it will happen anyway

Still time to... VOTE NO :c

Well, voting isn’t even concluded and these changes are happening. Kind of proves their point doesn’t it? Royal Mail don’t need an agreement to force through change.

Union took their eye off the ball, just like everything else thats why the change is coming no matter what.

And its why the membership will return the union a NO vote.

So why are you voting no then? You seem confused.

Because I cant in any conscious endorse this sell out, along with thousands of others. Thats what it boils down too.

How is it a sell out? It is an agreement designed to safeguard your job. Voting no won’t help.

''it is an agreement designed to safeguard your job''......as in customer service points?

Are staff working in CSPs being made redundant then? Of course they aren’t.

They effectively are if the reason they are working in the CSP is because they are unfit to perform a delivery and Royal Mail can’t offer them any other indoor duty.

There are more indoor duties than just working in the CSP.

[A2B]

There are more indoor duties than just working in the CSP.

Tell us more?

At most DOs there is nothing and if you can't do a delivery they will look to get you out the door by IHR

[LouBarlow]

There are more indoor duties than just working in the CSP.

Tell us more?

At most DOs there is nothing and if you can't do a delivery they will look to get you out the door by IHR

I can’t comment on every office but we have a good few duties that don’t involve delivery in our office, whether that be indoor IPS and prep or other admin duties. We are a mid-size unit so I appreciate that wouldn’t be possible for the smaller offices.

[A2B]

Does jobs you describe have been absorbed into the office workload already, the only time there would be prep/ips available is due to sickness and RM aren't going to keep somebody on the payroll as standby.

[daveyeff]

The yessers will just say it will happen anyway

Still time to... VOTE NO :c

Well, voting isn’t even concluded and these changes are happening. Kind of proves their point doesn’t it? Royal Mail don’t need an agreement to force through change.

Union took their eye off the ball, just like everything else thats why the change is coming no matter what.

And its why the membership will return the union a NO vote.

So why are you voting no then? You seem confused.

Because I cant in any conscious endorse this sell out, along with thousands of others. Thats what it boils down too.

How is it a sell out? It is an agreement designed to safeguard your job. Voting no won’t help.

''it is an agreement designed to safeguard your job''......as in customer service points?

Are staff working in CSPs being made redundant then? Of course they aren’t.

Not yet but then their hours havn't been cut yet

[greengiant]

There are more indoor duties than just working in the CSP.

Tell us more?

At most DOs there is nothing and if you can't do a delivery they will look to get you out the door by IHR

I can’t comment on every office but we have a good few duties that don’t involve delivery in our office, whether that be indoor IPS and prep or other admin duties. We are a mid-size unit so I appreciate that wouldn’t be possible for the smaller offices.

Its a mid size unit I worked in, and I was IHR out the door due to no other indoor duties being available when CSP staffing was reduced last month.

[daveyeff]

Its a knocking bet they will be paid off....never mind the shite of this deal is designed to safeguard jobs...once in and their times cut, it will be, "you can go out on delivery, or theres a nightshift job down the mail centre" etc etc etc...and those that can't or wont will be on their way with the piss poor VRs the union has let them bring in.

[SpacePhoenix]

Its a knocking bet they will be paid off....never mind the shite of this deal is designed to safeguard jobs...once in and their times cut, it will be, "you can go out on delivery, or theres a nightshift job down the mail centre" etc etc etc...and those that can't or wont will be on their way with the piss poor VRs the union has let them bring in.

No chance when hours were taken out during the realignment, any DDA duties are probably all spoken for anyway

[daveyeff]

Which is more or less the point i am making....they will be out on piss poor VRs. Some are saying this deal is designed to safeguard jobs....is it bollox.