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New start times and ballot

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Jack1960
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Re: New start times and ballot

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Looks like its off again, Union are writing to the lead singer of echo and the bunnymen
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Re: New start times and ballot

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Ya right it IS off again.....dear mr echo... :arrrghhh
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Total pisstake now like. They'll lose loads of members now.
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Re: New start times and ballot

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What’s Ian McCulloch got to do with anything.
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He was quoting rik mayall from the young ones in the 1980s
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Re: New start times and ballot

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Ballot indefinitely suspended....
Jack1960
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Re: New start times and ballot

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daveyeff wrote:
24 May 2023, 12:31
He was quoting rik mayall from the young ones in the 1980s
Classic episode
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Re: New start times and ballot

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This is just farcical now
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Re: New start times and ballot

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All national reps should be resigning
Or vote of no confidence put in
All pec members should be standing down
We have no leadership
Who the actual are making these decisions on my and your behalf
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Re: New start times and ballot

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Royal Mail Group National Agreement - Suspension of Ballot Timetable. 
 
TO ALL MEMBERS
 
The position reached with Royal Mail Group is the right agreement for this moment in time. Set against the most brutal dispute in our history, a self-inflicted but very real financial crisis for the company and jointly agreed need for change, this agreement will secure the future of the company, jobs, and the service.
 
However, what has become clear is the environment we are attempting to deliver this agreement in remains toxic. 
 
Royal Mail Group has not stepped back from their attacks in the workplace. This became more evident when they announced their Quality of Service results and failed to take any responsibility whatsoever for the disastrous position the company finds itself in.
 
Unless Royal Mail Group openly accept that their culture of imposition and the ‘our business to run’ mantra must go - then the integrity of the negotiators agreement will be irreparably damaged.
 
The CWU has made it clear to Royal Mail Group that unless we seriously revisit failed revisions, restore quality of service and end USO failures the business will not succeed. Royal Mail Group committed to this as the first step of the agreement but their ongoing actions and what you are seeing and feeling in the workplace do not in any way reflect this.
 
On this basis, the Postal Executive has agreed to suspend the vote on the national agreement until the following actions are completed:
 
1. In line with section 2.5 of the agreement (Improving Quality of Service and USO Compliance), immediate measures must be agreed to restore quality of service and genuinely review all failed revisions.
 
2. A mass zoom meeting for every CWU Representative and Manager in the UK to confirm the measures we agree with the company will be implemented. This must also cover the following:
 
• A pause on year 3 revisions until quality of service is restored and productivity measures are realistic and achievable.
• The full restoration of the IR Framework agreement - including acceptance that savings targets are negotiable.
• The right for part-time members to move to full-time / increase their contractual hours (on current terms and conditions) ahead of bringing in new entrants.
 
3. All offices are in receipt of their proposed finish times.
 
We will be updating Branches on these developments later this afternoon. 
 
This must be the wakeup call that senior management need to change the culture of imposition, command and control and finally show the humility required to deliver the agreement and change in a way that takes the workforce with them.
 
We have written to Royal Mail Group in line with the above and are awaiting their response.
 
Further developments will be reported in due course.
 
Yours sincerely,

Dave Ward
General Secretary

Andy Furey
Acting Deputy General Secretary (Postal)
hans solo
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Re: New start times and ballot

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They should not be suspending any f***ing vote they should be advising all to reject it
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Re: New start times and ballot

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Jack1960 wrote:
24 May 2023, 12:16
Looks like its off again, Union are writing to the lead singer of echo and the bunnymen
I was referring to this post.
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Exactly 👏
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Re: New start times and ballot

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The culture and behavior that the CWU want implemented from RM will take weeks even if RM actually agree to change it. There does not appear to be a plan B or any timeframe put on anything. How is the CWU going to monitor the situation? Also as there is no RM CEO who is pulling the strings? This is now a right dog's breakfast. It could drag on for months and it wouldn't surprise me if RM withdrew the deal and just carried on the way they are.
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Re: New start times and ballot

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barrychuckle wrote:
24 May 2023, 13:21
Jack1960 wrote:
24 May 2023, 12:16
Looks like its off again, Union are writing to the lead singer of echo and the bunnymen
I was referring to this post.
I know you were, thats why i said who he was referring to. Its a take on how absurd the whole debacle has become.