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CWU Facebook videos : We have struck a groundbreaking deal

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world class male
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Re: CWU Facebook videos : We have struck a groundbreaking deal

Post by world class male »

billycat wrote:
22 Apr 2023, 16:30
Although i think the deal is terrible, in my opinion the union has done what everybody was asking for a chance to vote on the deal, they have also given everybody twelve months notice to leave if they are so unhappy, if we vote no i think the company will put parts of the business into administration, then everybody will have a lot to moan about the majority of the office i work in will be voting yes.

WTF!
SWIM
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Re: CWU Facebook videos : We have struck a groundbreaking deal

Post by SWIM »

matrix123 wrote:
21 Apr 2023, 19:02
abysmal. tragic. pathetic. what a waste of time and effort In strikes and lost money. r.i.p cwu
end of the union..... 👋
'deal of the century' - dingo
guardianangel
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Re: CWU Facebook videos : We have struck a groundbreaking deal

Post by guardianangel »

Worst deal in any unions history,totally shafted posties,VOTE NO !!!!!, i hope these 2 resign and quickly and take those PEC members too for agreeing to put it to a vote. You have saved your own skins not the posties broken bodies,hang your heads in shame the lot of you.
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Re: CWU Facebook videos : We have struck a groundbreaking deal

Post by Linden14 »

No
77SAMPOST77
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Re: CWU Facebook videos : We have struck a groundbreaking deal

Post by 77SAMPOST77 »

Awful deal , VOTE NO .
sixfoottwo
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Re: CWU Facebook videos : We have struck a groundbreaking deal

Post by sixfoottwo »

All that backing, the heartache the mandate everything for what?

Shafted because they want to save themselves, pigs in the trough springs to mind, all the same at the top DELUDED.

Vote NO.

Rant over.
Linden14
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Re: CWU Facebook videos : We have struck a groundbreaking deal

Post by Linden14 »

No
Bosley
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Re: CWU Facebook videos : We have struck a groundbreaking deal

Post by Bosley »

It's a huge f*cking nope from me, sold their soles to the devil
Kirkz
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Re: CWU Facebook videos : We have struck a groundbreaking deal

Post by Kirkz »

Rarely post here but read a lot.
Voting NO.
Worst deal ever.
Been on delivery 25 years and once this dispute is over I'm jacking it in.
Job isn't worth the hassle.
Fcuk the CWU and the self serving tw@ts running it.
thebigone
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Re: CWU Facebook videos : We have struck a groundbreaking deal

Post by thebigone »

Manager bonus like always
Tom71
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Re: CWU Facebook videos : We have struck a groundbreaking deal

Post by Tom71 »

No, no, no, no. :Boo hoo!
Linden14
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Re: CWU Facebook videos : We have struck a groundbreaking deal

Post by Linden14 »

No wonder u 2 have gone into hiding what happened?
jahbalon
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Re: CWU Facebook videos : We have struck a groundbreaking deal

Post by jahbalon »

It will be a Yes vote, narrow but still a Yes vote I believe, because most of the mail sorters, admin and engineers will vote yes. I think the CWU will persuade enough of the posties to carry the ballot.
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Re: CWU Facebook videos : We have struck a groundbreaking deal

Post by pieoftheday »

Should be a separate agreement for delivery and processing then
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Re: CWU Facebook videos : We have struck a groundbreaking deal

Post by postslippete »

jahbalon wrote:
12 May 2023, 20:10
It will be a Yes vote, narrow but still a Yes vote I believe, because most of the mail sorters, admin and engineers will vote yes. I think the CWU will persuade enough of the posties to carry the ballot.
The CWU leadership are going to the areas in the country first where they know that most union reps/members are voting no. They hope to convince them that there is no alternative, no plan B and no other option.

But there will be two options on that voting slip.

You either vote for weaker terms and conditions and a below inflation pay rise or
You vote NO and force them to reconsider the poor deal that the Union leadership have reluctantly accepted.

Contrary to popular belief RM cannot force through all the changes that they want through executive action. They have to put forward quite a robust business plan if they also intend to enter administration and it's up to the govt to accept it. It's a last resort for RM because apart from the board members having to leave their jobs, I believe it's much more likely that the govt will look at days off the USO rather than accept public ownership anyway. But given that RM balance sheet is strong and it holds plenty of assets and that it also owns GLS which is profitable, they will have a very difficult job trying to prove that Royal Mail is going bankrupt right now.

It's strange that the RM board and now the union leadership are desperate to get this deal done to save their careers. But that is what it has come down to.

As usual, it's those unfortunate enough to do deliveries that are drawing the short straw in this agreement
On the face of it, shareholder value is the dumbest idea in the world.