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LTB 096/23 - Royal Mail Group: National Briefing - Friday 21st April

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Re: LTB 096/23 - Royal Mail Group: National Briefing - Friday 21st April

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CRIBMAD wrote:
18 Apr 2023, 16:33
I think the PEC have rejected the s**t offer ! Very unusual for a national briefing to take place ! Bring on the strikes / admin
Hopefully
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Re: LTB 096/23 - Royal Mail Group: National Briefing - Friday 21st April

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If it is a shite agreement, why would the CWU National Executive agree to a negotiators agreement?
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Re: LTB 096/23 - Royal Mail Group: National Briefing - Friday 21st April

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I think they have called this briefing to try and gauge the feeling among the workforce from the reps before endorsing or rejecting the offer. Opinion is obviously in the balance otherwise it would have been endorsed very quickly. They also need to get an idea of whether people have the stomach and the faith to take more industrial action.
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Re: LTB 096/23 - Royal Mail Group: National Briefing - Friday 21st April

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redlen wrote:
18 Apr 2023, 16:37
If it is a shite agreement, why would the CWU National Executive agree to a negotiators agreement?
For the same reasons they have agreed to every other shite agreement.
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.
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Re: LTB 096/23 - Royal Mail Group: National Briefing - Friday 21st April

Post by denhamhoop »

One last jolly up for the Union Reps before they all get voted out in Elections after they put their Negotiated Deal to us as for being asked to judge the workforces vibe how would most of them know any Union man I have ever known spends more time with Managers than he does actually working or talking to staff
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Re: LTB 096/23 - Royal Mail Group: National Briefing - Friday 21st April

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i think the main sentence from the memo is " the next steps" usually means industrial action is coming !
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Re: LTB 096/23 - Royal Mail Group: National Briefing - Friday 21st April

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CRIBMAD wrote:
18 Apr 2023, 16:53
i think the main sentence from the memo is " the next steps" usually means industrial action is coming !
No, it means the PEC have endorsed it and now need to explain it further to reps, to put to us before a vote.
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Re: LTB 096/23 - Royal Mail Group: National Briefing - Friday 21st April

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Acca Dacca wrote:
18 Apr 2023, 15:20
Sounds like the postal executive have rejected it
I was thinking the same ... Taken 2 days to consider, and the wording, 'the next steps' ...
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Re: LTB 096/23 - Royal Mail Group: National Briefing - Friday 21st April

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timbo1234 wrote:
18 Apr 2023, 16:39
I think they have called this briefing to try and gauge the feeling among the workforce from the reps before endorsing or rejecting the offer. Opinion is obviously in the balance otherwise it would have been endorsed very quickly. They also need to get an idea of whether people have the stomach and the faith to take more industrial action.
How can they gauge the feeling among the workforce when the workforce doesn't have a ruddy clue what the deal/agreement contains.

Our rep doesn't even ask us how we feel about anything anyway.
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Re: LTB 096/23 - Royal Mail Group: National Briefing - Friday 21st April

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National briefing are normally called to go through the negotiator’s agreement with senior reps who then go back to their respective branches. Local reps are then invited to meetings to go through the agreement and then sell it to the membership.
I might be wrong but they should release the documents now if it’s been endorsed by the PEC.
Any further delays are totally unacceptable.
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Re: LTB 096/23 - Royal Mail Group: National Briefing - Friday 21st April

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redlen wrote:
18 Apr 2023, 16:37
If it is a shite agreement, why would the CWU National Executive agree to a negotiators agreement?
Because there is never going to be an agreement that smells of roses
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Re: LTB 096/23 - Royal Mail Group: National Briefing - Friday 21st April

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timbo1234 wrote:
18 Apr 2023, 16:39
I think they have called this briefing to try and gauge the feeling among the workforce from the reps before endorsing or rejecting the offer. Opinion is obviously in the balance otherwise it would have been endorsed very quickly. They also need to get an idea of whether people have the stomach and the faith to take more industrial action.
My feelings too. They don't sound too confident about it. I can imagine there being a lot of different opinions. Anyway, the only opinion that really matters is the members. It probably would be better for us to reject it emphatically and send them a message to get their act together
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Re: LTB 096/23 - Royal Mail Group: National Briefing - Friday 21st April

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needadvice wrote:
18 Apr 2023, 17:20
redlen wrote:
18 Apr 2023, 16:37
If it is a shite agreement, why would the CWU National Executive agree to a negotiators agreement?
Because there is never going to be an agreement that smells of roses
Then don’t sell it to us like there would be just to get a strike mandate
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Re: LTB 096/23 - Royal Mail Group: National Briefing - Friday 21st April

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How appropriate it will be held at the home of Bristol City by the biggest pair of tits ever trusted to run our union.
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Re: LTB 096/23 - Royal Mail Group: National Briefing - Friday 21st April

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arsenalbob wrote:
18 Apr 2023, 17:30
How appropriate it will be held at the home of Bristol City by the biggest pair of tits ever trusted to run our union.
Knock the Union all you want.But leave the wonderful BCFC out of it.