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Delivery routes not being covered.

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geordieboy123
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Re: Delivery routes not being covered.

Post by geordieboy123 »

All rounds will be achievable if we allow “commit to deliver” to come in, so be very careful what you vote for
DirtyHarry
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Re: Delivery routes not being covered.

Post by DirtyHarry »

Whole deliveries, half deliveries, not going out on a daily basis in my office.
Too few full-timers, too many part-timers, that's what's killing us.
arsenalbob
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Re: Delivery routes not being covered.

Post by arsenalbob »

About 50% don’t go out every day and around 20% don’t get touched for a week at a time. Sometimes over a week. There is no rest day or holiday cover. And as for the enforced revisions? They didn’t get past day one. There’s no one available to prep the frames.
twoloops
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Re: Delivery routes not being covered.

Post by twoloops »

What matters is that you have a start & finish time, embrace it :crazy:
SpacePhoenix
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Re: Delivery routes not being covered.

Post by SpacePhoenix »

arsenalbob wrote:
12 Apr 2023, 16:57
And as for the enforced revisions? They didn’t get past day one.
How long will it be before higher up order the COM to re-implement the revisions?
LouBarlow
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Re: Delivery routes not being covered.

Post by LouBarlow »

SpacePhoenix wrote:
12 Apr 2023, 20:01
arsenalbob wrote:
12 Apr 2023, 16:57
And as for the enforced revisions? They didn’t get past day one.
How long will it be before higher up order the COM to re-implement the revisions?
We are a few weeks before going live with our revision and word is that we are going to have to lose more rounds from the office. The first revision is already going to be unachievable so I literally have no idea where those hours are going to come from.
guardianangel
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Re: Delivery routes not being covered.

Post by guardianangel »

geordieboy123 wrote:
12 Apr 2023, 07:53
All rounds will be achievable if we allow “commit to deliver” to come in, so be very careful what you vote for
:Applause :Applause :Applause :Applause
guardianangel
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Re: Delivery routes not being covered.

Post by guardianangel »

LouBarlow wrote:
13 Apr 2023, 05:22
SpacePhoenix wrote:
12 Apr 2023, 20:01
arsenalbob wrote:
12 Apr 2023, 16:57
And as for the enforced revisions? They didn’t get past day one.
How long will it be before higher up order the COM to re-implement the revisions?
We are a few weeks before going live with our revision and word is that we are going to have to lose more rounds from the office. The first revision is already going to be unachievable so I literally have no idea where those hours are going to come from.
We have gone live and i've never seen so many large parcels left all week,its ironic they want to be a parcels business but we are delivering the mail and leaving tracked parcels,by the time they realise its one big mess they won't have any contracts left.
thedonkey
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Re: Delivery routes not being covered.

Post by thedonkey »

Well, it is damned obvious the USO is be failed on a massive scale right across RM.

If Ofcom are not aware of this Why?
If Ofcom are aware What are they doing about it?
sixfoottwo
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Re: Delivery routes not being covered.

Post by sixfoottwo »

guardianangel wrote:
13 Apr 2023, 05:50
LouBarlow wrote:
13 Apr 2023, 05:22
SpacePhoenix wrote:
12 Apr 2023, 20:01
arsenalbob wrote:
12 Apr 2023, 16:57
And as for the enforced revisions? They didn’t get past day one.
How long will it be before higher up order the COM to re-implement the revisions?
We are a few weeks before going live with our revision and word is that we are going to have to lose more rounds from the office. The first revision is already going to be unachievable so I literally have no idea where those hours are going to come from.
We have gone live and i've never seen so many large parcels left all week,its ironic they want to be a parcels business but we are delivering the mail and leaving tracked parcels,by the time they realise its one big mess they won't have any contracts left.
Our office is the opposite! Not a tracked/standard Parcel to be seen! Tons and tons of mail though everywhere just left, total disgrace bits only go out when a customer complains.

Joke.
guardianangel
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Re: Delivery routes not being covered.

Post by guardianangel »

sixfoottwo wrote:
15 Apr 2023, 06:42
guardianangel wrote:
13 Apr 2023, 05:50
LouBarlow wrote:
13 Apr 2023, 05:22
SpacePhoenix wrote:
12 Apr 2023, 20:01
arsenalbob wrote:
12 Apr 2023, 16:57
And as for the enforced revisions? They didn’t get past day one.
How long will it be before higher up order the COM to re-implement the revisions?
We are a few weeks before going live with our revision and word is that we are going to have to lose more rounds from the office. The first revision is already going to be unachievable so I literally have no idea where those hours are going to come from.
We have gone live and i've never seen so many large parcels left all week,its ironic they want to be a parcels business but we are delivering the mail and leaving tracked parcels,by the time they realise its one big mess they won't have any contracts left.
Our office is the opposite! Not a tracked/standard Parcel to be seen! Tons and tons of mail though everywhere just left, total disgrace bits only go out when a customer complains.

Joke.
You need to report those bosses making those decisions,its illegal to do that at this present time under the USO,why do you think Thompson has gone all quiet.
sixfoottwo
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Re: Delivery routes not being covered.

Post by sixfoottwo »

guardianangel wrote:
15 Apr 2023, 08:16
sixfoottwo wrote:
15 Apr 2023, 06:42
guardianangel wrote:
13 Apr 2023, 05:50
LouBarlow wrote:
13 Apr 2023, 05:22
SpacePhoenix wrote:
12 Apr 2023, 20:01
arsenalbob wrote:
12 Apr 2023, 16:57
And as for the enforced revisions? They didn’t get past day one.
How long will it be before higher up order the COM to re-implement the revisions?
We are a few weeks before going live with our revision and word is that we are going to have to lose more rounds from the office. The first revision is already going to be unachievable so I literally have no idea where those hours are going to come from.
We have gone live and i've never seen so many large parcels left all week,its ironic they want to be a parcels business but we are delivering the mail and leaving tracked parcels,by the time they realise its one big mess they won't have any contracts left.
Our office is the opposite! Not a tracked/standard Parcel to be seen! Tons and tons of mail though everywhere just left, total disgrace bits only go out when a customer complains.

Joke.
You need to report those bosses making those decisions,its illegal to do that at this present time under the USO,why do you think Thompson has gone all quiet.
Manager doesn't care, he again said prioritise Tracked today I said can I have that in writing and he said I'm telling you to prioritise the Tracked, customers I spoke to today havent had mail for days utter disgrace.
Hyrrokkin
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Re: Delivery routes not being covered.

Post by Hyrrokkin »

thedonkey wrote:
15 Apr 2023, 05:52
Well, it is damned obvious the USO is be failed on a massive scale right across RM.

If Ofcom are not aware of this Why?
If Ofcom are aware What are they doing about it?
Ofcom know exactly what is going on - they are as corrupt as RM
mentaltheshots
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Re: Delivery routes not being covered.

Post by mentaltheshots »

LouBarlow wrote:
10 Apr 2023, 19:42
norris9 wrote:
10 Apr 2023, 15:38

Just enjoy the line manager's face when you come back with 3 loops and 15 tracked parcels.

Let them suffer and have to explain it to the management above them.
What is the process for cutting off in your office? Our revision is due to go live soon, and it would be interesting to get some clarification. We’ve had people conduct coded (one dismissed) for bringing back mail this way. In the past, we always would inform beforehand if we couldn’t complete and only take enough out to fill our time. Is it national policy to bring mail back now instead?
In my office, we don't inform the manager if we are cutting off. We used to but it got so bad, now we just bring it back fill out a form stating how much we have bought back and put it back in the frame.
guardianangel
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Re: Delivery routes not being covered.

Post by guardianangel »

sixfoottwo wrote:
15 Apr 2023, 14:42
guardianangel wrote:
15 Apr 2023, 08:16
sixfoottwo wrote:
15 Apr 2023, 06:42
guardianangel wrote:
13 Apr 2023, 05:50
LouBarlow wrote:
13 Apr 2023, 05:22
SpacePhoenix wrote:
12 Apr 2023, 20:01
arsenalbob wrote:
12 Apr 2023, 16:57
And as for the enforced revisions? They didn’t get past day one.
How long will it be before higher up order the COM to re-implement the revisions?
We are a few weeks before going live with our revision and word is that we are going to have to lose more rounds from the office. The first revision is already going to be unachievable so I literally have no idea where those hours are going to come from.
We have gone live and i've never seen so many large parcels left all week,its ironic they want to be a parcels business but we are delivering the mail and leaving tracked parcels,by the time they realise its one big mess they won't have any contracts left.
Our office is the opposite! Not a tracked/standard Parcel to be seen! Tons and tons of mail though everywhere just left, total disgrace bits only go out when a customer complains.

Joke.
You need to report those bosses making those decisions,its illegal to do that at this present time under the USO,why do you think Thompson has gone all quiet.
Manager doesn't care, he again said prioritise Tracked today I said can I have that in writing and he said I'm telling you to prioritise the Tracked, customers I spoke to today havent had mail for days utter disgrace.
Tell your customers to report it to ofcom its easily done online,ive got all my family and friends to spread the word,wouldn't hurt to email their MP too and tell them Royal Mail are carrying out anti-competitive activity and abusing their dominant position ,if your company has more than 40 % of market share and Royal Mail has 52% they are committing an illegal act ,we must get this out to all the public and your MP's its criminal that they are still favouring one company over another ,might be worth contacting the letter companies of the one's left behind ,it just isn't fair.