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What deal are you waiting for?

Pay talks 2022 discussion, news, LTB's RMCtv and all BUSINESS RECOVERY, TRANSFORMATION AND GROWTH AGREEMENT chat

What do you want to do

Vote on the current offer
255
52%
Wait for the next offer
239
48%
 
Total votes: 494

FilthyBloke
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Re: What deal are you waiting for?

Post by FilthyBloke »

Option B will do me.
guardianangel
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Re: What deal are you waiting for?

Post by guardianangel »

No sick pay changes why should people suffer in a physically demanding job in all weathers we deserve to be looked after,no commit to deliver or annualised hours this just has a massive impact on peoples lives and just steamrollers us towards a gig economy,i dont mind working a little later but not in the dark walking down some of the dodgy terrain and areas we deliver to is just not practical or safe,as for pay the 5.5% payrise for last year should be backdated, at least 10% this year for the cost of living and inflation and next years pay to be reviewed next January for April and i'd be happy with what inflation is at that time,anything else will not get my vote and im happy to carry on striking indefinitely,why should the worker suffer for the greed of management,we make the money we deserve a good portion of the pie,i can't believe what some people write on here and except they will always be at the bottom excepting crumbs from the table,come on guys have some dignity and respect for yourselves we deserve all of this above.
hans solo
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Re: What deal are you waiting for?

Post by hans solo »

:Applause :Applause :Applause :Applause
DiamondSmiles
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Re: What deal are you waiting for?

Post by DiamondSmiles »

chickenwittle wrote:
05 Apr 2023, 19:50
Nobody has seen the full offer ,all that’s been revealed is the juicy bits lump sums No sunday etc. until Royal Mail come clean on everything, sick pay , annualised hours etc. there is nothing worth voting on.
Exactly this. Just like politics, they only tell you what they have achieved and brush the rest under the carpet. Come clean Royal Mail, full offer on the table.
SSkUNkY
Posts: 147
Joined: 02 Nov 2014, 19:00
Gender: Male

Re: What deal are you waiting for?

Post by SSkUNkY »

redlen wrote:
05 Apr 2023, 23:56
The carrying of bags instead of trolleys were banned a decade ago.

If people now have bad backs carrying pouches then there is no comeback
This is a lie.
Sbutts8182
Posts: 136
Joined: 30 Mar 2013, 20:12
Gender: Male

Re: What deal are you waiting for?

Post by Sbutts8182 »

guardianangel wrote:
06 Apr 2023, 05:49
No sick pay changes why should people suffer in a physically demanding job in all weathers we deserve to be looked after,no commit to deliver or annualised hours this just has a massive impact on peoples lives and just steamrollers us towards a gig economy,i dont mind working a little later but not in the dark walking down some of the dodgy terrain and areas we deliver to is just not practical or safe,as for pay the 5.5% payrise for last year should be backdated, at least 10% this year for the cost of living and inflation and next years pay to be reviewed next January for April and i'd be happy with what inflation is at that time,anything else will not get my vote and im happy to carry on striking indefinitely,why should the worker suffer for the greed of management,we make the money we deserve a good portion of the pie,i can't believe what some people write on here and except they will always be at the bottom excepting crumbs from the table,come on guys have some dignity and respect for yourselves we deserve all of this above.
Add to that working in the dark, accidents on delivery are going to go through the roof.
SpacePhoenix
MAIL CENTRES/PROCESSING
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Joined: 12 Nov 2008, 17:03
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Re: What deal are you waiting for?

Post by SpacePhoenix »

SSkUNkY wrote:
06 Apr 2023, 08:33
redlen wrote:
05 Apr 2023, 23:56
The carrying of bags instead of trolleys were banned a decade ago.

If people now have bad backs carrying pouches then there is no comeback
This is a lie.
In either a DO or a MC if someone injures themselves while on shift, one of the first questions that's going to be ask well two are:

"Did you use the equipment that you were meant to use?" and "Did you use that equipment correctly?" If the answer to either of them questions is no, it's going to be an instant blameworthy
rambo1
EX ROYAL MAIL
Posts: 3266
Joined: 12 Jun 2013, 20:00
Gender: Male

Re: What deal are you waiting for?

Post by rambo1 »

SSkUNkY wrote:
06 Apr 2023, 08:33
redlen wrote:
05 Apr 2023, 23:56
The carrying of bags instead of trolleys were banned a decade ago.

If people now have bad backs carrying pouches then there is no comeback
This is a lie.
Standard practice is you must use a LWT when delivering unless un practical for example block of flats. Other than that it is mandatory and if you were caught with a bag on your shoulder and subsequently went off sick with an injury that could be attributed to this way of working then there may be issues.
Neverwasadoor
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Joined: 04 May 2017, 20:33
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Re: What deal are you waiting for?

Post by Neverwasadoor »

I work between two offices and there has never been any trollies for duties. We are single vans and you use bags, you just make sure they are not overweight. My brother works in a different office and there are no trollies there either. They are only mandatory if they were used when doing a revision based on using them.
clashcityrocker
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Re: What deal are you waiting for?

Post by clashcityrocker »

Neverwasadoor wrote:
06 Apr 2023, 09:50
We are single vans and you use bags, you just make sure they are not overweight.
What exactly do you think "overweight" is for your bags? There are only bag weights for flats and lightweight trollies.
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.
iHateD2Ds
Posts: 539
Joined: 16 Apr 2008, 16:33

Re: What deal are you waiting for?

Post by iHateD2Ds »

Greed is what got RM to **** off its workforce and its never going to stop whilst the parasites make the decisions
Neverwasadoor
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Re: What deal are you waiting for?

Post by Neverwasadoor »

What exactly do you think "overweight" is for your bags? There are only bag weights for flats and lightweight trollies.

I believe it's 8kg. I hardly ever use a bag as my round is worked so I deliver the large stuff on the way to my parking spot and the walk with bundle.
rambo1
EX ROYAL MAIL
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Joined: 12 Jun 2013, 20:00
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Re: What deal are you waiting for?

Post by rambo1 »

Ths votes going to be closer than brexit lol.
77SAMPOST77
PARCELFORCE
Posts: 365
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Re: What deal are you waiting for?

Post by 77SAMPOST77 »

How can we ask for a vote when we do not know the full details yet .
The details released are just a snapshot of the agreement all the really nasty bits will be buried in the small print we do not know about yet .
guardianangel
Posts: 1782
Joined: 21 Feb 2020, 19:40
Gender: Male

Re: What deal are you waiting for?

Post by guardianangel »

Sbutts8182 wrote:
06 Apr 2023, 08:49
guardianangel wrote:
06 Apr 2023, 05:49
No sick pay changes why should people suffer in a physically demanding job in all weathers we deserve to be looked after,no commit to deliver or annualised hours this just has a massive impact on peoples lives and just steamrollers us towards a gig economy,i dont mind working a little later but not in the dark walking down some of the dodgy terrain and areas we deliver to is just not practical or safe,as for pay the 5.5% payrise for last year should be backdated, at least 10% this year for the cost of living and inflation and next years pay to be reviewed next January for April and i'd be happy with what inflation is at that time,anything else will not get my vote and im happy to carry on striking indefinitely,why should the worker suffer for the greed of management,we make the money we deserve a good portion of the pie,i can't believe what some people write on here and except they will always be at the bottom excepting crumbs from the table,come on guys have some dignity and respect for yourselves we deserve all of this above.
Add to that working in the dark, accidents on delivery are going to go through the roof.
Exactly ,i dont see well in the dark i wonder if i can finish earlier ,i wonder if they make me and i have an accident whether i could claim more .