At our place people are now taking there breaks and apart from a couple of idiots we come in on are times and since revision have been failing half the walks most days! Management are complaining all the time but it just shows do it properly and can’t be done!
Someone said about a work to rule you don't need a ballot to do that but a personal resolution. It is you to make that choice of just doing the job properly and it is you who needs to finish on time and you alone who of your own free will to do any more or not!
Unfortunately in practice it would require a ballot because if loads start doing it, RM could construe it to be unofficial industrial action
They could try and construe it all they want
Individual choice
Prove otherwise
The proof would be X amount of staff in a DO were doing OT each week but now only Y amount are doing it? I doubt anything can be more accurate than the company OT records!
I bet there arnt many if any in processing cutting corners and its happening there too, happy to be corrected if people are?
It's a right s**t show with the yorks of large that come in from other MCs. A right mix of large and small, Tracked and non-Tracked and it's near enough a dead cert that you'll get at least a couple of yorks with SDs on them as well. We sort normal large and Tracked large together, don't think it'll end up being too long before they have us doing the same for normal smalls and Tracked smalls
But people dont start early or give half hour of their own time at end of shift or skip breaks do they?
There are people who start early every day and also give up part of their break as well and a fair number who stay past their finishing time to help ensure the 6am Despatch is made
Around five to six in the morning staff just down tools and walk out and finish even though the flat and letter frames are still full waiting to be cleared. That goes for the Bull Rings as well.
Reality being it is the Agency staff who get asked to stay on for an extra half hour to meet the dispatch as the drivers are normally climbing the walls by this time.
I do the job properly. I don’t start early I always have my full breaks and I don’t carry overweight bags.
In the coming revision I’ve had nothing added to my delivery. It’s probably helps it was already big and my PDA actuals back that up.
Still amazes me how many start early and take shortcuts.
But the question remains
Why are you carrying bags still and not using mandatory delivery equipment such as a LWT/HCT?,
I have an HCT round, my delivery is predominantly flats and using the HCT for the whole delivery is impossible as I can’t push it up stairs. I use the HCT when I can but pushing one of those round the whole delivery is worse than using a pouch.
I do the job properly. I don’t start early I always have my full breaks and I don’t carry overweight bags.
In the coming revision I’ve had nothing added to my delivery. It’s probably helps it was already big and my PDA actuals back that up.
Still amazes me how many start early and take shortcuts.
But the question remains
Why are you carrying bags still and not using mandatory delivery equipment such as a LWT/HCT?,
I have an HCT round, my delivery is predominantly flats and using the HCT for the whole delivery is impossible as I can’t push it up stairs. I use the HCT when I can but pushing one of those round the whole delivery is worse than using a pouch.
Sympathies in what you are saying but that is not your problem
The key word being mandatory equipment.
You have no choice if you like using that equipment or not
If you used that mandatory equipment they would have probably taken a loop off your delivery
But agree you work out of the HCT if you have tower blocks with a pouch
The proof would be X amount of staff in a DO were doing OT each week but now only Y amount are doing it? I doubt anything can be more accurate than the company OT records!
Well it might help prove that someone was orchestrating an unofficial overtime ban. But it might well not, you'd have to look at why people weren't doing the overtime they used to and how the percentage of people doing overtime had altered over time. It's not cut and dried.
Following procedures correctly, so long as you're not bloody-minded about how you do that, is not 'working to rule', it's 'being compliant with company policy'.
Equally, declining overtime is not of itself 'working to rule', even if you used to do loads. Overtime is voluntary. You do it as and when you want to. Lots of people in my office do far less overtime than they did. Mainly because they're knackered and demoralised now. But there are still folk who clock up extra hours - just not as many. But then again, our office is horribly understaffed. So you'd have to be sure that understaffing was not the root cause of a drop in aggregate overtime (50 staff of whom 20 do 40 hours overtime are doing the same pro rata as 60 staff of whom 24 do 48 hours. You've lost 8 hours overtime there by understaffing - exacerbated by the hours lost due to insufficient staff.
You have no choice if you like using that equipment or not
That's true. However the waters would be muddied a trifle were it to be that managers knew of widespread non-compliance with a H&S requirement and did nothing about it. Which I suspect is true in many offices. It of course doesn't mean the individual concerned would not bear blame, but if, for instance, a LWT was not in their van, and they reported that and one was not supplied and they were told just to use bags . . .
I've always done the job properly, start on time breaks and finish on time.
The only thing I don't do all the time is use a lwt but sometimes I have no choice!
I've not booked ot for at least 20yrs! Everyone knows how I work and it's very straightforward!
same here ! and i use a lw trolley on EVERY loop regardless of how heavy it is , just remember if you carry heavy bags and get a back problem they will not pay you ! "well you should be using a trolley that.s our policy and that's what they are there for, so no sick pay for you i'm afraid !"
Whilst should be using LWT, that is not true - they cant prove your back issue was the result of overweight bags and not using trolley
Be it overweight bags caused musculoskeletal issuers or not, Using a trolley as delivery equipment is mandatory. The only exception will be things like tower blocks etc where a pouch is used.
This attack on terms and conditions is a direct result of employees refusing to use that mandatory equipment and both Royal Mail and the CWU refusing to crack the whip
Employees getting home early, doing and finishing overtime in duty time are all a root cause. Employees rubbed Royal Mails nose in it.
Now they have all that lovely PDA data to back up and justification for these revisions, so who really is at fault?
You have no choice if you like using that equipment or not
That's true. However the waters would be muddied a trifle were it to be that managers knew of widespread non-compliance with a H&S requirement and did nothing about it. Which I suspect is true in many offices. It of course doesn't mean the individual concerned would not bear blame, but if, for instance, a LWT was not in their van, and they reported that and one was not supplied and they were told just to use bags . . .
Just obeying orders will not work
The Employee knows the use of delivery equipment is mandatory yet choose to ignore it.
Any manager will just deny it anyway unless in writing
, this is so true .