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Annual leave deductions for strike days

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shaun2urz
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Re: Annual leave deductions for strike days

Post by shaun2urz »

lizizriz wrote:
25 Jan 2023, 15:32
Whoaaa, bit obvious, annual leave isn't accrued against unpaid day. They even sent notifications out to that effect.
You could work it out to make sure the deduction is correct and if you cant then no wonder your a postman.


It's you're, not your. No wonder you're a manager..... :d'oh!
antcpfc
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Re: Annual leave deductions for strike days

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Liz reminds me of a poster on twitter that I had a few rows with.She had the hump because a few delayed parcels ruined her business (apparently).
Slider tool. Lol.
priority102
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Re: Annual leave deductions for strike days

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As with ANY company, you accrue annual leave by working, if you withdraw your labour (striking) you are not working so obviously you're not going to accrue leave for those strike days, hence why you have seen no opposition from the union on this, nor will you.
cobrakai
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Re: Annual leave deductions for strike days

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priority102 wrote:
25 Jan 2023, 21:48
As with ANY company, you accrue annual leave by working, if you withdraw your labour (striking) you are not working so obviously you're not going to accrue leave for those strike days, hence why you have seen no opposition from the union on this, nor will you.
I have NEVER been deducted leave from a strike stop talking nonsense. It’s just yet another union busting tactic. It’s leave we already are entitled to they have taken away as you would know if you worked there…. Oh wait
Lapzio
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Re: Annual leave deductions for strike days

Post by Lapzio »

All this does is create even more anomosity between staff and senior management just when ballot papers are being delivered great timing , great man management and people skills feel so proud to work for this company. When are senior management going to learn attacking the workforce just results in less productivity and increased sickness ,
aiden01
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Re: Annual leave deductions for strike days

Post by aiden01 »

Zicomurphy wrote:
25 Jan 2023, 20:54
Wullie10 wrote:
25 Jan 2023, 20:30
They decuted 30 plus hours from my A/L . I'll just get it back on the sick... easy. F@@@ them
Seems very excessive. That can’t all be deductions due to strike action. I lost just over 10 hours. Would have thought 12 or 13 hours would be the maximum.
Lost 15 hours.
aiden01
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Re: Annual leave deductions for strike days

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cobrakai wrote:
25 Jan 2023, 21:56
priority102 wrote:
25 Jan 2023, 21:48
As with ANY company, you accrue annual leave by working, if you withdraw your labour (striking) you are not working so obviously you're not going to accrue leave for those strike days, hence why you have seen no opposition from the union on this, nor will you.
I have NEVER been deducted leave from a strike stop talking nonsense. It’s just yet another union busting tactic. It’s leave we already are entitled to they have taken away as you would know if you worked there…. Oh wait
Had a long (well 2 weeks back in 2006) strike an never lost a single days leave.
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Re: Annual leave deductions for strike days

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Productivity will take a hit when this is fully realised Idiots at work at the top will yet reap what they sow!
aiden01
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Re: Annual leave deductions for strike days

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k979aaa wrote:
25 Jan 2023, 22:44
Productivity will take a hit when this is fully realised Idiots at work at the top will yet reap what they sow!
Can it go any lower most people have had enough. Never ever seen morale lower.
Woody Guthrie
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Re: Annual leave deductions for strike days

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priority102 wrote:
25 Jan 2023, 21:48
As with ANY company, you accrue annual leave by working, if you withdraw your labour (striking) you are not working so obviously you're not going to accrue leave for those strike days, hence why you have seen no opposition from the union on this, nor will you.
It's not really that simple though is it?
If it was you would accrue extra annual leave simply by working overtime/days off.
So it's actually about working the days you are contracted to work.

So bearing in mind for the vast majority of our reserves control over the days they were contracted to work was completely in the hands of local managers it could be legally dubious.
Only dead fish follow the current
kazardaimenu
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Re: Annual leave deductions for strike days

Post by kazardaimenu »

Well exactly if I’m contracted to 30 hours and achieved that during strike weeks without working strike days should they really be deducting leave?
daveyeff
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Re: Annual leave deductions for strike days

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I contacted a lad who works as a law lecturer in the city uni and he reckons its illegal...says you cant be victimised for taking part in a 'protected act', and a legal strike is a protected act. He says all they can legally do is deduct the strike days from your overall length of service....does Martin Walsh/ or union heirarchy not know about this?... i think i will email Darren Jones see if i can get a reply.
Hyrrokkin
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Re: Annual leave deductions for strike days

Post by Hyrrokkin »

daveyeff wrote:
26 Jan 2023, 09:47
I contacted a lad who works as a law lecturer in the city uni and he reckons its illegal...says you cant be victimised for taking part in a 'protected act', and a legal strike is a protected act. He says all they can legally do is deduct the strike days from your overall length of service....does Martin Walsh/ or union heirarchy not know about this?... i think i will email Darren Jones see if i can get a reply.
RM surely would have covered themselves and had legal advice...what any fair competent employer would do

Oh wait s**t ....
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justanumber
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Re: Annual leave deductions for strike days

Post by justanumber »

Zereena Brown communication:

As part of the normal quarterly review of unpaid absence, annual leave entitlements will be adjusted in January to reflect the number of days that colleagues have been absent due to industrial action. In broad terms, for a full time colleague, this equates to a reduction of 0.5 days annual leave for every 5 days of unpaid absence.

• For colleagues who participate in every strike day, this means nearly 2 days of annual leave will be lost.

If they have annual leave still to take this year, this will be deducted from their outstanding leave entitlement.

Hope this helps...
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Re: Annual leave deductions for strike days

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Vote yes