Post for Martin Walsh

[k979aaa]

Rolling strikes will have a bigger impact why we have not done so till november is questionable but you have to remember traffic for christmas will not start till then, We needed a ballot we had to test the ballot and have to keep alive the ballot.
None of this has come cheep for anybody this has cost us so far 7 days pay including tomorrows action but I have to say this is a far better run campaign by the union than years gone by. We are ahead of the game in terms of communication and the way the ballots were conducted so hats off to them. The only fly in the ointment is ST what kind of world is this guy living in most sane CEO's would have concluded we have got our act together yet he comes up with all this s**t day in day out. Has this guy got some kind of problem? so CWU 8/10 CEO 0/10 in communication and dealing with the strike!

[Bob Cooney]

The law requires the CWU to breakdown the number of members per workplace and the grades which take action. We have 1847 workplaces , 142 different grades and 115 thousand members.

The law states we only have to give Royal Mail 14 days notice for strike action. So today we will serve notice on the first of 5 sets of functional action on 2nd ,3rd and 4th of November action.

We will serve notice on the remaining action 2 weeks before that action in line with the law. It has been agreed by the Postal Executive so can only be stood down if the Postal Executive vote for that.

In terms of action past the 3rd December, we still have that in our locker. The decision is do we fire all our bullets now or do we wait until early November. Remember once you announce it then that’s it and clearly You have nothing further as leverage. It is a judgement call.

Was a dumb call to announce strike dates all the way December typical HQ showboating much like the pointless gate meeting today.

The name of the game is creating a huge backlog and the remit of maximum effect for minimum loss of wages has not been met for the strikes leading up to the rolling strikes

Saving up for a 5 day all out mid November instead of continuing with poor value 1 day strikes could easily have been achieved.

As you state the Executive can call off and change the strike dates.
There should be review of the strike plan every week with feedback from local reps but presume we will blunder on.

This is just blinkered nonsense tbh.
You are looking at it solely from a business disruption point of view and nothing else at all.

This is clearly a marathon, not a sprint.
What you are advocating is going all in on a short burst.
It will lead to dwindling numbers in the long term.

You do know industrial action is something that has been played out many times before in various industries?
There are tried and tested techniques as well as a long list of high-risk, low reward strategies.

Your havering mince and seem to be another union member with a short memory ,Pullinger and his outstanding relationship with CEO springs to mind hook line sinker .

All they can do is try and personalise it with Thomson and for the umpteenth time send a letter to the board as if the board are somehow unaware that he's trying to bust the union and there honour in big business

Dreamer

And you’re another union member with grandiose ideas about how to “win”, none of which are grounded in any type of reality.

The type that talks at frame and on picket line about “going out for a fortnight” and “real action” to people who have 4 kids, one PT wage and not a pot to piss in.

I’m sure you’d do a much better job, “dreamer”.

More havering.

Been on multiple strikes and currently one where not one has crossed the picket line.

You bang on about tried and tested methods but forget rolling strikes were tried before and tested hence why we started off with all out strikes

Unlike you I beleive in a grass roots union not one fronted by a millionaire who is currently expecting the King to help us out.

[Bob Cooney]

The law requires the CWU to breakdown the number of members per workplace and the grades which take action. We have 1847 workplaces , 142 different grades and 115 thousand members.

The law states we only have to give Royal Mail 14 days notice for strike action. So today we will serve notice on the first of 5 sets of functional action on 2nd ,3rd and 4th of November action.

We will serve notice on the remaining action 2 weeks before that action in line with the law. It has been agreed by the Postal Executive so can only be stood down if the Postal Executive vote for that.

In terms of action past the 3rd December, we still have that in our locker. The decision is do we fire all our bullets now or do we wait until early November. Remember once you announce it then that’s it and clearly You have nothing further as leverage. It is a judgement call.

Was a dumb call to announce strike dates all the way December typical HQ showboating much like the pointless gate meeting today.

The name of the game is creating a huge backlog and the remit of maximum effect for minimum loss of wages has not been met for the strikes leading up to the rolling strikes

Saving up for a 5 day all out mid November instead of continuing with poor value 1 day strikes could easily have been achieved.

As you state the Executive can call off and change the strike dates.
There should be review of the strike plan every week with feedback from local reps but presume we will blunder on.

No the name of the game is not creating a huge backlog it is rm losing lots of large contracts an who to f--k can afford to lose a full weeks pay in the midst of a cost of living crisis ffs i give up. an no i don't mean give up on strike action.

Furey last night said today & next Tuesday strikes are to create a backlog.

Who on earth can afford to take 5 days all out ?

How many days strike action have we taken by next Tuesday ?

The contract point not even worth replying to.

[aiden01]

Again answer the question who can afford 5days all out? lots of people will go in an say can't afford it where as 1 day a week majority will stay out.contract question not worth answering???

[Bob Cooney]

Again answer the question who can afford 5days all out? lots of people will go in an say can't afford it where as 1 day a week majority will stay out.contract question not worth answering???

Yes the contract question not worth answering and by next Tuesday me and every other member in my office will have lost 8 days pay and by December 3rd it will be 15 days but because they are spread out across 2 months they suddenly become affordable.

Your getting cash flow mixed up with affordability

[k979aaa]

Get a hot water bottle if you have cold feet.

[Bob Cooney]

Get a hot water bottle if you have cold feet.

Cold feet ?

If your replying to me then you don't understand the point made so get your thinking cap on

[Woody Guthrie]

Yes the contract question not worth answering and by next Tuesday me and every other member in my office will have lost 8 days pay and by December 3rd it will be 15 days but because they are spread out across 2 months they suddenly become affordable.

Your getting cash flow mixed up with affordability

Most people on a weekly wage naturally live from week to week, pay their bills from week to week, do their shopping from week to week etc, that means when necessary it is easier to absorb the cost of a one day strike per week over 5 weeks than it would be to absorb the cost of a 5 day strike once every 5 weeks.

Income/loss is the same but affordability is not just about income and loss it's also about income management.

His question is very much worth answering even if the answer is obvious.
Very few members is the answer.

[norris9]

Do Royal Mail want a postal workforce?...... and if so, do they want that workforce to be paid 20% less?.... essentially minimum wage.

How will that work, especially in more affluent areas where it costs £1,400 a month to rent a 2 bedroom house, or £360,000 to buy a 2 bedroom house.

What's the issue with putting the price of sending a letter up by 20%? Letters are typically sent by massive corporations, BBC, BRITSH GAS, BANKS, WATER COMPANIES, ENERGY COMPANIES, MOBILE PHONE SIM CARD SUPPLIERS, RETAILERS, MAGAZINE PUBLISHERS, etc etc etc...

There is no other postal service for them to transfer to, so what's the issue in putting prices up by 20% instead of putting posties wages down by 20%?

The national living wage needs to be put up to £15 and hour or the income tax allowance needs to be put up to £20,000+. The current minimum wage in this country is diabolical versus the cost of living, especially housing.

Labour need to bring in a policy like the above and I will vote for them in a general election if they do. Maybe a combination of both is needed. A £14 national living wage and the tax threshold to be £20,000.

[Bob Cooney]

Yes the contract question not worth answering and by next Tuesday me and every other member in my office will have lost 8 days pay and by December 3rd it will be 15 days but because they are spread out across 2 months they suddenly become affordable.

Your getting cash flow mixed up with affordability

Most people on a weekly wage naturally live from week to week, pay their bills from week to week, do their shopping from week to week etc, that means when necessary it is easier to absorb the cost of a one day strike per week over 5 weeks than it would be to absorb the cost of a 5 day strike once every 5 weeks.

Income/loss is the same but affordability is not just about income and loss it's also about income management.

His question is very much worth answering even if the answer is obvious.
Very few members is the answer.

Try getting a weekly direct debit on your energy bill / council tax of course its about income management and members ain't thick.

All in my office managed to put a bit away for the strike or have done some docket to offset though some have taken this to the extreme.

The 8 days mainly single day action is not effective and 3 days all out is > than 5 single days.

If your saying you have a formula for knowing how much strike action can be taken to achieve an agreement without losing major contracts then print it otherwise to me sounds like your average RM manager who were repeatedly punting that line last week.

[k979aaa]

Most people will cut the cloth to their budget/expenditure we all have known about strikes happening.