Meeting

[roman]

Can we have the bike days back!!!

[timbo1234]

CWU could agree to all the changes RM want but if RM is expecting the current managers to introduce, implement, monitor and even understand them they have no chance. It will be total chaos. Most of these changes require upgraded IT, change to all schedules and deliveries, new work patterns for 115000 people and most importantly cooperation from the workforce. Good luck with that from me

[Shadedpostie]

Our best bet will and not all of you guys are going to agree, is a slow change bringing in the changes ie after start time, clock in /clock out ,Sunday compulsory so many times a year etc.. Christmas is coming our company and the majority of us, want to put our best foot forward to help deliver CHristmas for all our customers and their children, let's hop we can get an acceptable and sensible offer from above, .......until the next time

Oh hey Simon

[yubin282]

correct f**k xmas
during the pandemic we were essential workers ie.they coudnt do without us especially xmas
now they dont give a damn
and amazon need us as well as they will not cope at xmas without us

I've never understood the "public support" thing. Did they care about you during the pandemic when "they" were working you into ground with their relentless greed. 8 packet bags per day anyone. No thanks.

[Surreypostie]

Terry told us at the start we can win this, I never believed him but I didn't like a lot of the proposals so I voted for and have taken action, I still don't believe we will win this. Thompson isn't budging, once we get past christmas nobody will give a s**t, maybe the board have factored in losses over this quarter saying the can break the union? What do I know? we are always kept in the dark, pawns we are, pawns.

Jesus, thought I was reading a script from Dad’s Army there. All it needed was signing-off with ‘we’re all doomed!’

I much prefer to think like Bob Crow: “If you fight you won't always win. But if you don't fight you will always lose”

Looks like the CWU has learned from past errors. Not suspending the strikes while the talks continue is what we should always have done. Should keep up the pressure on the board, and institutional shareholders will be applying pressure on Thompson, too. If we’re truly losing £1m a day (which I truly don’t believe), the major shareholders will be worried the next dividend will be axed. A low share price is, for them, tolerable while the income from dividends is attractive. Chop the dividend because of the CEOs uncompromising attitude, and Thompson will suffer the same fate as Rico Back

Nothing Dad's Army about it, we balloted for a no strings pay rise, RM said from day 1 its not going to happen. A few days ago, Martin Walsh one of the PEC wrote on here that there is not going to be a stand alone pay deal. It isn't me that is surrendering, we have a mandate to strike for a no strings pay rise now Martin is talking about 2 year deals. No wonder RM seem to run rings round us all the time. Just look at our legal protections, not quite so good as we were led to believe and called out on here at the time.

[hans solo]

Our best bet will and not all of you guys are going to agree, is a slow change bringing in the changes ie after start time, clock in /clock out,Sunday compulsory so many times a year etc.. Christmas is coming our company and the majority of us, want to put our best foot forward to help deliver CHristmas for all our customers and their children, let's hope we can get an acceptable and sensible offer from above, .......until the next time

Make no mistake, everything RM want WILL eventually come, whether the union like it or not. Every year you lose something in exchange for a little pay rise, and union members fall for it every year without exception as members concentrate on what percentage pay increase they are going to get (which is almost straightaway) but don't pay much attention to the other bits that RM are going to reign in a litter further up the road - which the union have agreed to surrender.

Here's a few of what has been surrendered:

PHG grade with what was back then nearly £30 a week extra for doing the same job and responsibilities as a locker person does now. If an ordinary trained postie covered that job for holidays or sick they received the extra too.

D2D payments per item - a damn good earner for most posties. Given how much bigger your walks are now, think how much this would have been worth each week now!

Sat/Sun premium payments.

Night Duty Allowance (NDA) on any hours worked pre either 5am or 6am (I can't remember)

Driving Allowance (even for small vans) £6 per week.

Increased Driving Allowance for any van above standard Vivaro size (400's) - something like £20 odd pounds per week, pro rata for the amount of uses, but you were given that even if you used one to take a late special out!!!

Training Allowance for basically anything you showed someone else - £3 per day.

Cycle allowance for maintaining the cycles - for anyone who was trained.

I couldn’t believe it when we gave up overtime rates on the sat/sun
We used to try and grab whole duty on ot on sat
Time and a half for whole sat on top of your own duty
And the company still made millions which successive gvmts raided
All for the sake of job and finish
How f***ing gullible we’re we

[walthmstowman]

they have offered us free pumpkins, a halloween mask and a very special xmas pudding (2 year matured !) in return for taking it up the a**e !

no way we want at least two pumpkins you robbing twat simon

It will be the free pumpkin going up the a**e so one is more than enough

[2yearpostie]

Glad to see some of you start to realise the union wont win this one and you are losing money for nothing by striking.

[robson144]

Glad to see some of you start to realise the union wont win this one and you are losing money for nothing by striking.

Someone cancel this idiot

[Rommagic]

Update on twitter.

[TopperGas]

The latest FB update sounds positive, in that some progress is apparently now being made in the talks.

[TopperGas]

The latest FB update sounds positive, in that some progress is apparently now being made in the talks.

[guardianangel]

Just remember the membership still have to vote on any deal.

[Schiff]

Glad to see some of you start to realise the union wont win this one and you are losing money for nothing by striking.

Everybody knows that in order to reach an agreement then some compromise is needed from both sides. If the union negotiators go too far in agreeing RM's demands then the members will simply vote down any deal and the strikes will continue.

If members had all been sniveling cowards who weren't prepared to fight and strike then Simon would not only have introduced his current proposed changes but would have quickly come back with more.

When this dispute is over I hope that the cowardly strike breakers will have the good grace to pick the shittiest duties going and donate any pay rise over 2% to charity given that they have done sweet FA to fight for anything better. In reality I suspect that the cowards will simply freeload off the sacrifices that others made. They are the lowest of the low.

[chrisj]

Just remember the membership still have to vote on any deal.

I don't think so... Since when do we get to vote on deals? I think the CWU recommends a Yes vote and Reps votes. I might be wrong but we shall not get a vote that might change the CWU stand or agreement with RM...

What happens if we vote NO? I doubt CWU will give us an option to carry on striking when they have accepted RM terms