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Later starts & Sunday working for everyone

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Woody Guthrie
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Re: Later starts & Sunday working for everyone

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Tman wrote:
10 Jun 2022, 11:47
claretandblue wrote:
10 Jun 2022, 08:55
My point is, the vast majority aren't bothered about it coming next day.
Probably even less bothered about any "environmental impact" caused by how it's delivered either.
Do you mean like fuel taxes?
I think they might.
It'll cost more.
That always bothers people.
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Re: Later starts & Sunday working for everyone

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claretandblue wrote:
10 Jun 2022, 06:38
Where has this myth come from that everyone is ordering stuff late at night and is desperate for it to be delivered the next day ? Think about your own buying habits, are you really bothered about the vast majority of the things you order being here tomorrow ? I'm more interested in free delivery than fast delivery.
Free delivery is the problem, nothing is ever free .
If delivery charges were higher then wages for delivery staff could be improved
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Re: Later starts & Sunday working for everyone

Post by IloveMYredTROLLEY! »

elteleltel wrote:
10 Jun 2022, 16:23
claretandblue wrote:
10 Jun 2022, 06:38
Where has this myth come from that everyone is ordering stuff late at night and is desperate for it to be delivered the next day ? Think about your own buying habits, are you really bothered about the vast majority of the things you order being here tomorrow ? I'm more interested in free delivery than fast delivery.
Free delivery is the problem, nothing is ever free .
If delivery charges were higher then wages for delivery staff could be improved
Free delivery has been on the decline for ~5+ years, at least for the few things I buy.
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Re: Later starts & Sunday working for everyone

Post by nuklearpuppy »

Can really see how much things have changed since the restructure of Management. Managers taking notes . Early shifts being phased out and later starts in delivery with lapsing still being put through without any question . The workload has been crazy this week and I’ve noticed a huge increase in oversized parcels too . Is this going to be the way forward because something has to give or is it due to us suffering for two days off last week ? Never known it to ever be this busy at this time of year in over 20 years service
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Re: Later starts & Sunday working for everyone

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Tman wrote:
10 Jun 2022, 11:47
claretandblue wrote:
10 Jun 2022, 08:55
My point is, the vast majority aren't bothered about it coming next day.
Probably even less bothered about any "environmental impact" caused by how it's delivered either.
Apart from RM who also use trains and planes the other couriers all use lorries and vans so whether it's a 1 or 2 day delivery doesn't make any difference to the environmental impact for them
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Re: Later starts & Sunday working for everyone

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All of the other couriers use air transport.
Stop making s**t up SP.

Amazon even have their own airline.
Amazon Air, formerly known as Amazon Prime Air, is a cargo airline operating exclusively to transport Amazon packages. In 2017, it changed its name from Amazon Prime Air to Amazon Air to differentiate themselves from their autonomous drone delivery service. However, the Prime Air logo remains on the aircraft.[3] Until January 2021, the airline had relied on wet-leasing its aircraft from other operators, but going forward it is looking to directly own some aircraft.[4] On the planes the airline owns, the airline will still rely on others for CMI leases, providing crew, maintenance, and insurance.[5]
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Re: Later starts & Sunday working for everyone

Post by Partyondude »

It looks like RM are embracing ESG , Environmental Social Governance. Moving us towrads a corporate globalist takeover.


Businesses who are seen to be woke and promote the agenda will benefit, and Businesses who don't will be punished into compliance or put out of business.

There are hours of video you can watch from The WEF Davos meeting which was held a few weeks ago, where they discuss this and everything else they want to introduce.

They know they can't get all governments to do what they want, but they can get corporations to do it.

Fun times ahead
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Re: Later starts & Sunday working for everyone

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Woody Guthrie wrote:
10 Jun 2022, 20:26
All of the other couriers use air transport.
Stop making s**t up SP.

Amazon even have their own airline.
Amazon Air, formerly known as Amazon Prime Air, is a cargo airline operating exclusively to transport Amazon packages. In 2017, it changed its name from Amazon Prime Air to Amazon Air to differentiate themselves from their autonomous drone delivery service. However, the Prime Air logo remains on the aircraft.[3] Until January 2021, the airline had relied on wet-leasing its aircraft from other operators, but going forward it is looking to directly own some aircraft.[4] On the planes the airline owns, the airline will still rely on others for CMI leases, providing crew, maintenance, and insurance.[5]
How many of them use planes within the UK? You're the one making s**t up :cuppa
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Re: Later starts & Sunday working for everyone

Post by Woody Guthrie »

All of them.
There are cargo flights all night carrying parcels all across the UK both internal and external although I fail to see the difference from an environmental impact point of view.
.
What would make you think Royal Mail would be the only one?
What you're saying makes no sense.



https://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/188560 ... e-daytime/
AIRPORT chiefs have distanced themselves from suggestions night flights could be moved to daylight hours.

Glyn Jones, CEO London Southend Airport, insisted the Amazon operated night flights would most likely be remaining overnight, despite a lack of passenger flights during the day.

Mr Jones told the Echo it’s “not his call”, but said due to demand for next day deliveries it would be almost impossible for the cargo flights to move.
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SpacePhoenix
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Re: Later starts & Sunday working for everyone

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Woody Guthrie wrote:
11 Jun 2022, 00:34
All of them.
There are cargo flights all night carrying parcels all across the UK both internal and external although I fail to see the difference from an environmental impact point of view.
.
What would make you think Royal Mail would be the only one?
What you're saying makes no sense.



https://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/188560 ... e-daytime/
AIRPORT chiefs have distanced themselves from suggestions night flights could be moved to daylight hours.

Glyn Jones, CEO London Southend Airport, insisted the Amazon operated night flights would most likely be remaining overnight, despite a lack of passenger flights during the day.

Mr Jones told the Echo it’s “not his call”, but said due to demand for next day deliveries it would be almost impossible for the cargo flights to move.
No mention of the flights being within the UK in that article. Not seen any proof that other companies use planes within the UK
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Re: Later starts & Sunday working for everyone

Post by citypostie »

SpacePhoenix wrote:
11 Jun 2022, 08:24
Woody Guthrie wrote:
11 Jun 2022, 00:34
All of them.
There are cargo flights all night carrying parcels all across the UK both internal and external although I fail to see the difference from an environmental impact point of view.
.
What would make you think Royal Mail would be the only one?
What you're saying makes no sense.



https://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/188560 ... e-daytime/
AIRPORT chiefs have distanced themselves from suggestions night flights could be moved to daylight hours.

Glyn Jones, CEO London Southend Airport, insisted the Amazon operated night flights would most likely be remaining overnight, despite a lack of passenger flights during the day.

Mr Jones told the Echo it’s “not his call”, but said due to demand for next day deliveries it would be almost impossible for the cargo flights to move.
No mention of the flights being within the UK in that article. Not seen any proof that other companies use planes within the UK
Why would Amazon be flying thousands of parcels from this country to another when they have massive distribution sites all across the world , multiple in every country. It's plainly obvious unless you're trying to prove a point that doesn't exist that the Amazon flights in this country will be internal ones
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Re: Later starts & Sunday working for everyone

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citypostie wrote:
11 Jun 2022, 08:36
SpacePhoenix wrote:
11 Jun 2022, 08:24
Woody Guthrie wrote:
11 Jun 2022, 00:34
All of them.
There are cargo flights all night carrying parcels all across the UK both internal and external although I fail to see the difference from an environmental impact point of view.
.
What would make you think Royal Mail would be the only one?
What you're saying makes no sense.



https://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/188560 ... e-daytime/
AIRPORT chiefs have distanced themselves from suggestions night flights could be moved to daylight hours.

Glyn Jones, CEO London Southend Airport, insisted the Amazon operated night flights would most likely be remaining overnight, despite a lack of passenger flights during the day.

Mr Jones told the Echo it’s “not his call”, but said due to demand for next day deliveries it would be almost impossible for the cargo flights to move.
No mention of the flights being within the UK in that article. Not seen any proof that other companies use planes within the UK
Why would Amazon be flying thousands of parcels from this country to another when they have massive distribution sites all across the world , multiple in every country. It's plainly obvious unless you're trying to prove a point that doesn't exist that the Amazon flights in this country will be internal ones
Amazon have got multiple fulfilment centres around the UK. They dispatch the item from the nearest one to the customer. I've yet to see any proof that Amazon use planes within the UK for internal UK flights
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Re: Later starts & Sunday working for everyone

Post by WASD »

2yearpostie wrote:
09 Jun 2022, 18:03
Postmangit wrote:
09 Jun 2022, 17:44
Yes & what about Special deliveries, we wouldn’t be going out til 1pm? 😆😆🤬🤬🤬
Going to guarenteed next day 7pm
It looks like a "1", but really it's a "7" :chuckle
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Re: Later starts & Sunday working for everyone

Post by 2yearpostie »

SpacePhoenix wrote:
11 Jun 2022, 08:24
Woody Guthrie wrote:
11 Jun 2022, 00:34
All of them.
There are cargo flights all night carrying parcels all across the UK both internal and external although I fail to see the difference from an environmental impact point of view.
.
What would make you think Royal Mail would be the only one?
What you're saying makes no sense.



https://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/188560 ... e-daytime/
AIRPORT chiefs have distanced themselves from suggestions night flights could be moved to daylight hours.

Glyn Jones, CEO London Southend Airport, insisted the Amazon operated night flights would most likely be remaining overnight, despite a lack of passenger flights during the day.

Mr Jones told the Echo it’s “not his call”, but said due to demand for next day deliveries it would be almost impossible for the cargo flights to move.
No mention of the flights being within the UK in that article. Not seen any proof that other companies use planes within the UK
Sp, im on the flight path for east mids. I promise you at the very least ive seen UPS and DHL branded planes vertual every other hour between 8pm and 4am
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Re: Later starts & Sunday working for everyone

Post by Edboy »

Postmangit wrote:
09 Jun 2022, 15:40
Had a briefing this morning asking for our feedback on 2 main points
1) 10am to 6pm starts.
2) Sunday working for everyone

Our answer was 🖕
Not had a briefing in my unit.