RMCtv : Zareena 'I'm still a people person-not when it comes to money tho' Brown : Some allowances just don't make sense at this point in time-so we want to take 'em away

[2yearpostie]

Maybe the MC workers who loose their duties with all this automation can be relocated to DO's to prep 6 door 2 doors for each delivery as us delivery staff will be outside delivering 100% of the time. Oh and don't forget the redirections, sort and prep the loose mail, tie up and load the vans/HCT. Spacepheonix you really do not have a clue as to what delivery involves.

Won't affect us, just means less casuals will be needed. I can't see letters and flats being more than twice a week within the next couple of years, maybe even once a week

Great, just means most of the mail will be brought back if its sent out once a week as most of book pressure even in sumer for the bit we have now over 6 days.

[citypostie]

Would you rather be out on delivery 7 days a week? 35hrs split over 7 days would give 5hr long shifts, potentially the same delivery spans if indoor work were to be removed off to separate duties

I think I've probably said this before but delivery is clearly not something you understand at all so it's maybe best all round if you leave it to those that do.

Having said that since it's obviously an obsession of yours perhaps you could apply for a transfer and pick up some much needed experience.

You and I could job swap, give it some thought and get back to me...

As RM automate more and more sorting in MCs, they're going to have loads of data, so eventually you'll have to say goodbye to fixed walks. They'll eventually have enough data that for each day they'll decide which walks will get lapsed and which walks the lapsing will get added to. I'd give it five years tops before RM introduce dynamically generated walks, the software already exists but just needs scaling up, and will work better as more stuff gets sorted by machine.

The technology for sequencing packets already exists and if improved I can see RM bring it in eventually. You think the delivery spans are bad now, just wait until that gets brought in, you'll be nearly 100% outdoor time only when RM eventually bring it in.

You talk absolute crap. How does this 100% outdoor work happen then when we have more indoor work now than ever before? The 2nd wave of mech doesn't even come sequenced anymore which adds time on because despite what you say in my office its usually at least half a tray for each delivery so roughly 100+ letters. The tracked parcels needed scanning in every morning and that's after we've plucked them out of the standard parcel York's that MC workers are too lazy to make sure they are correctly segged despite our area rep and area manager assuring us it would be sorted because it was costing too much money for us to sort out the mess created by numptys in the mail centre.
They've banged on for years how the indoor work is dropping , it hasn't dropped yet, just increased and it will take some big changes to make it happen. Probably starting by making the MC staff do their jobs correctly

[postieblueshirt]

Would you rather be out on delivery 7 days a week? 35hrs split over 7 days would give 5hr long shifts, potentially the same delivery spans if indoor work were to be removed off to separate duties

I think I've probably said this before but delivery is clearly not something you understand at all so it's maybe best all round if you leave it to those that do.

Having said that since it's obviously an obsession of yours perhaps you could apply for a transfer and pick up some much needed experience.

You and I could job swap, give it some thought and get back to me...

As RM automate more and more sorting in MCs, they're going to have loads of data, so eventually you'll have to say goodbye to fixed walks. They'll eventually have enough data that for each day they'll decide which walks will get lapsed and which walks the lapsing will get added to. I'd give it five years tops before RM introduce dynamically generated walks, the software already exists but just needs scaling up, and will work better as more stuff gets sorted by machine.

The technology for sequencing packets already exists and if improved I can see RM bring it in eventually. You think the delivery spans are bad now, just wait until that gets brought in, you'll be nearly 100% outdoor time only when RM eventually bring it in.

You talk absolute crap. How does this 100% outdoor work happen then when we have more indoor work now than ever before? The 2nd wave of mech doesn't even come sequenced anymore which adds time on because despite what you say in my office its usually at least half a tray for each delivery so roughly 100+ letters. The tracked parcels needed scanning in every morning and that's after we've plucked them out of the standard parcel York's that MC workers are too lazy to make sure they are correctly segged despite our area rep and area manager assuring us it would be sorted because it was costing too much money for us to sort out the mess created by numptys in the mail centre.
They've banged on for years how the indoor work is dropping , it hasn't dropped yet, just increased and it will take some big changes to make it happen. Probably starting by making the MC staff do their jobs correctly

il second that we now have 3 people from an office of 30 on o/t starting an hour earlier to split the packets.thats been happening for over 2 years

[citypostie]

Maybe the MC workers who loose their duties with all this automation can be relocated to DO's to prep 6 door 2 doors for each delivery as us delivery staff will be outside delivering 100% of the time. Oh and don't forget the redirections, sort and prep the loose mail, tie up and load the vans/HCT. Spacepheonix you really do not have a clue as to what delivery involves.

Won't affect us, just means less casuals will be needed. I can't see letters and flats being more than twice a week within the next couple of years, maybe even once a week

And you think all the businesses up and down the country never mind the ones in the big city's will just sit back if royal mail proposes that to the regulator and it then has to go through parliament? They can't just do what they want despite what you think. There would be uproar, now letters Monday to Friday they will ask for and get no doubt, they've said as much as has the regulator

[SpacePhoenix]

The 2nd wave of mech doesn't even come sequenced anymore which adds time on because despite what you say in my office its usually at least half a tray for each delivery so roughly 100+ letters.

Find that amount of letters hard to believe, most days it's just a little over a box worth for a whole batch. tbqf we get the odd batch that's not really worth even running through the machine

The tracked parcels needed scanning in every morning and that's after we've plucked them out of the standard parcel York's

Probably being sorted on a PSM by the local MC. They're going to maximise the throughput of the machine, even if it means whacking the Tracked and non-Tracked through together to eliminate the time that would be needed to clear down the machine.

that MC workers are too lazy to make sure they are correctly segged despite our area rep and area manager assuring us it would be sorted because it was costing too much money for us to sort out the mess created by numptys in the mail centre.

No one gives a s**t what happens on the next shift, let alone the next office in the line

[SpacePhoenix]

Maybe the MC workers who loose their duties with all this automation can be relocated to DO's to prep 6 door 2 doors for each delivery as us delivery staff will be outside delivering 100% of the time. Oh and don't forget the redirections, sort and prep the loose mail, tie up and load the vans/HCT. Spacepheonix you really do not have a clue as to what delivery involves.

Won't affect us, just means less casuals will be needed. I can't see letters and flats being more than twice a week within the next couple of years, maybe even once a week

And you think all the businesses up and down the country never mind the ones in the big city's will just sit back if royal mail proposes that to the regulator and it then has to go through parliament? They can't just do what they want despite what you think. There would be uproar, now letters Monday to Friday they will ask for and get no doubt, they've said as much as has the regulator

Just how many businesses actually need letters and flats next day? All the DSA would have been Mailsort years ago. If I consider every letter and flat that I've received in the post over the last few years, not a single one really needed to be next day. Many businesses if a document is need to go somewhere quickly will just email it as a PDF file to where it's got to go to.

[citypostie]

Maybe the MC workers who loose their duties with all this automation can be relocated to DO's to prep 6 door 2 doors for each delivery as us delivery staff will be outside delivering 100% of the time. Oh and don't forget the redirections, sort and prep the loose mail, tie up and load the vans/HCT. Spacepheonix you really do not have a clue as to what delivery involves.

Won't affect us, just means less casuals will be needed. I can't see letters and flats being more than twice a week within the next couple of years, maybe even once a week

And you think all the businesses up and down the country never mind the ones in the big city's will just sit back if royal mail proposes that to the regulator and it then has to go through parliament? They can't just do what they want despite what you think. There would be uproar, now letters Monday to Friday they will ask for and get no doubt, they've said as much as has the regulator

Just how many businesses actually need letters and flats next day? All the DSA would have been Mailsort years ago. If I consider every letter and flat that I've received in the post over the last few years, not a single one really needed to be next day. Many businesses if a document is need to go somewhere quickly will just email it as a PDF file to where it's got to go to.

I deliver to about 150 businesses a day including a few solicitors, every one of them gets mail near enough everyday apart from Saturdays when all but 6 are closed.And I'm not talking about the DSA junk stuff I deliver to the residential houses on my delivery, it's mainly stamped and recorded/special delivery stuff. Just because you personally don't get important stuff in the post doesn't mean that companies don't!

[clashcityrocker]

No one gives a s**t what happens on the next shift, let alone the next office in the line

Maybe we should change the saying "There's no I in team" to "There's no Mail Centre workers in Team RM"

[blacov]

Speaking of reducing indoor work time. My office currently pays out tons of S/A everyday so we don't get out at 11am or even later. I can't see that changing drastically over the next years. Work that comes from mail centre certainly add to the injury. Turning up late sometimes and everyday tracked are mixed with everything else. Flats and stuff all mixed. It takes forever to get through this. In my opinion all these savings made in mail centre translates into more time needed in DOs to sort the mess out.

[SpacePhoenix]

Turning up late sometimes

All lorries go out within a few mins of the final dispatch time so that'll be just down to traffic on the roads

everyday tracked are mixed with everything else. Flats and stuff all mixed.

Local MC got both a FSM and a PSM? Probably the local MC is trying to minimise downtime (time taken to clear a machine down)

[mjd24]

Would you rather be out on delivery 7 days a week? 35hrs split over 7 days would give 5hr long shifts, potentially the same delivery spans if indoor work were to be removed off to separate duties

I think I've probably said this before but delivery is clearly not something you understand at all so it's maybe best all round if you leave it to those that do.

Having said that since it's obviously an obsession of yours perhaps you could apply for a transfer and pick up some much needed experience.

You and I could job swap, give it some thought and get back to me...

As RM automate more and more sorting in MCs, they're going to have loads of data, so eventually you'll have to say goodbye to fixed walks. They'll eventually have enough data that for each day they'll decide which walks will get lapsed and which walks the lapsing will get added to. I'd give it five years tops before RM introduce dynamically generated walks, the software already exists but just needs scaling up, and will work better as more stuff gets sorted by machine.

The technology for sequencing packets already exists and if improved I can see RM bring it in eventually. You think the delivery spans are bad now, just wait until that gets brought in, you'll be nearly 100% outdoor time only when RM eventually bring it in.

12 hour deliveries i reckon bruv.

[clashcityrocker]

12 hour deliveries i reckon bruv.

But you forgot we will only be delivering flats and letters one day a week.
25 hour deliveries I reckon bruv.

[Wolf91]

LOL SP and his bizarre obsession with deliveries.
Sometimes I think he’s a bot - The way he talks, same stuff every time, regardless of topic.
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[TopperGas]

Maybe the MC workers who loose their duties with all this automation can be relocated to DO's to prep 6 door 2 doors for each delivery as us delivery staff will be outside delivering 100% of the time. Oh and don't forget the redirections, sort and prep the loose mail, tie up and load the vans/HCT. Spacepheonix you really do not have a clue as to what delivery involves.

Won't affect us, just means less casuals will be needed. I can't see letters and flats being more than twice a week within the next couple of years, maybe even once a week

And you think all the businesses up and down the country never mind the ones in the big city's will just sit back if royal mail proposes that to the regulator and it then has to go through parliament? They can't just do what they want despite what you think. There would be uproar, now letters Monday to Friday they will ask for and get no doubt, they've said as much as has the regulator

Just how many businesses actually need letters and flats next day? All the DSA would have been Mailsort years ago. If I consider every letter and flat that I've received in the post over the last few years, not a single one really needed to be next day. Many businesses if a document is need to go somewhere quickly will just email it as a PDF file to where it's got to go to.

I deliver to about 150 businesses a day including a few solicitors, every one of them gets mail near enough everyday apart from Saturdays when all but 6 are closed.And I'm not talking about the DSA junk stuff I deliver to the residential houses on my delivery, it's mainly stamped and recorded/special delivery stuff. Just because you personally don't get important stuff in the post doesn't mean that companies don't!

Before starting work for the RM I worked in an office and virtually all the letters I received on a daily basis had already been received via email, and that was before the more widespread move to WFH.

[Nickvilla20]

My current indoor work is throwing off my own round, sorting some oversize and tying up my walk. Yet that’s still takes me around 90 minutes to 2 hours depending on traffic. Basically saying there will be no indoor work is for the birds.