LTB 075/25 - Update on USO Pilot Sites

[hans solo]

Ayr pilot is falling to bits as we speak
f***ing shambles by all account
Who would have thought it
They are even going up to newton mearns to see their methods
Its the usual sticking plaster and wing it method
RM mgmt and CWU officers have not got a clue

[Barnacle]

Ayr pilot is falling to bits as we speak
f***ing shambles by all account
Who would have thought it
They are even going up to newton mearns to see their methods
Its the usual sticking plaster and wing it method
RM mgmt and CWU officers have not got a clue

The pilot is a fail. They should scrap it before wasting anymore or our pay rise on it.

[Valentina@1]

Feels like both parties don’t care if it fails,just cut as many jobs and save as much money as possible.

The whole thing stinks

[Pidleypoo]

Ayr pilot is falling to bits as we speak
f***ing shambles by all account
Who would have thought it
They are even going up to newton mearns to see their methods
Its the usual sticking plaster and wing it method
RM mgmt and CWU officers have not got a clue

We all know why it’s falling apart without even being there.

They’ve made the deliveries unachievable.

The odm could work if they do revisions properly but they won’t and we’ll get the blame.

The union are nowhere on it either.

You’ve got bouch taking about 12k steps a day- never known a union with their heads so far in the sand on it.

[Perseus]

Ayr pilot is falling to bits as we speak
f***ing shambles by all account
Who would have thought it
They are even going up to newton mearns to see their methods
Its the usual sticking plaster and wing it method
RM mgmt and CWU officers have not got a clue

Could save them a trip and just tell them to move to 1 person per duty/van. That is how Newton Mearns have made it work.
Shambles

[qwerty2]

Ayr pilot is falling to bits as we speak
f***ing shambles by all account
Who would have thought it
They are even going up to newton mearns to see their methods
Its the usual sticking plaster and wing it method
RM mgmt and CWU officers have not got a clue

Could save them a trip and just tell them to move to 1 person per duty/van. That is how Newton Mearns have made it work.
Shambles

It works because it’s a small office - they already had single van duties before!
RM would have to double the amount of vehicles

[Perseus]

Ayr pilot is falling to bits as we speak
f***ing shambles by all account
Who would have thought it
They are even going up to newton mearns to see their methods
Its the usual sticking plaster and wing it method
RM mgmt and CWU officers have not got a clue

Could save them a trip and just tell them to move to 1 person per duty/van. That is how Newton Mearns have made it work.
Shambles

It works because it’s a small office - they already had single van duties before!
RM would have to double the amount of vehicles

I was being slightly facetious. That office is now, as expected being held up as an example of making it work, when they've had an undeniable head start by being 1 per van when they really shouldn't have been. It's why they were chosen first.

[Barnacle]

Ayr pilot is falling to bits as we speak
f***ing shambles by all account
Who would have thought it
They are even going up to newton mearns to see their methods
Its the usual sticking plaster and wing it method
RM mgmt and CWU officers have not got a clue

Could save them a trip and just tell them to move to 1 person per duty/van. That is how Newton Mearns have made it work.
Shambles

It works because it’s a small office - they already had single van duties before!
RM would have to double the amount of vehicles

I was being slightly facetious. That office is now, as expected being held up as an example of making it work, when they've had an undeniable head start by being 1 per van when they really shouldn't have been. It's why they were chosen first.

Nottingham North and Stockto-On-Tees are coming up. There’ll be no hiding place then. If it doesn’t work in small offices, it will be disastrous in the large offices.

[yellowbelly]

Commit to deliver is where you have to take everything out with you, with zero caps on anything, the only rule is you have to deliver it all no matter how long it takes. Commit to deliver also doesn't allow you to go home early if it's a light day.

Job and finish would allow you to go home early if you finish early. You would not have to take anymore than 50 Tracked out with you. That alone should prevent you from going over excessive amounts.

I find that if there are 55 Tracked or above and a lot of them are large parcels it slows you down a lot. All the scanning, then you need 2 yorks instead of 1, then the van can be awkward to load, then doing the round is inefficient as everything is piled on top of each other, you have to deliver parcels separately as they don't fit in bags, + the more parcels you have the more dockets you need to write out.

This is where you can lose so much time, so a cap at 50 Tracked would be immensely helpful. Anyone is capable of thinking up other rules around this way of working to make sure you aren't going more than 30 minutes 'over time'. Just remember - the lighter days you get no lapsing - you go home as early as you finish.



but I get it some people probably don't care about bringing stuff back and having the arguments with managers and are happy with the status quo way of working.

Job and finish - the only way any semblance of that system would be allowed is if SISO is used to calculate your pay. Wouldn't bother me but be careful what you wish for.

[SMS1969]

Ayr pilot is falling to bits as we speak
f***ing shambles by all account
Who would have thought it
They are even going up to newton mearns to see their methods
Its the usual sticking plaster and wing it method
RM mgmt and CWU officers have not got a clue

Could save them a trip and just tell them to move to 1 person per duty/van. That is how Newton Mearns have made it work.
Shambles

It works because it’s a small office - they already had single van duties before!
RM would have to double the amount of vehicles

I was being slightly facetious. That office is now, as expected being held up as an example of making it work, when they've had an undeniable head start by being 1 per van when they really shouldn't have been. It's why they were chosen first.

Nottingham North and Stockto-On-Tees are coming up. There’ll be no hiding place then. If it doesn’t work in small offices, it will be disastrous in the large offices.

Nottingham North have had many problems, so there’s no chance it’ll work there.

[ted_e_bear]

Ayr pilot is falling to bits as we speak
f***ing shambles by all account
Who would have thought it
They are even going up to newton mearns to see their methods
Its the usual sticking plaster and wing it method
RM mgmt and CWU officers have not got a clue

Could save them a trip and just tell them to move to 1 person per duty/van. That is how Newton Mearns have made it work.
Shambles

It works because it’s a small office - they already had single van duties before!
RM would have to double the amount of vehicles

I was being slightly facetious. That office is now, as expected being held up as an example of making it work, when they've had an undeniable head start by being 1 per van when they really shouldn't have been. It's why they were chosen first.

Nottingham North and Stockto-On-Tees are coming up. There’ll be no hiding place then. If it doesn’t work in small offices, it will be disastrous in the large offices.

According to the network review later start times Nottingham had 79 duties and Stockton a massive 178.

[A2B]

But they will only be trials of a particular section of these large offices not every duty surely?

[HarrySutton111]

I'd think it would be every duty

[Pidleypoo]

But they will only be trials of a particular section of these large offices not every duty surely?

This is one of those questions that really needs answers.

They’re saying rurals ,business and hct duties will still be 5 days a week ( not including Saturdays ) but what actually constitutes a rural ? There’s some business deliveries that have residential and some hct’s could be park and loop.

There no real parameters that I can find on any of that.

As soon as this hits an office of that size , we’ll really see how much of a balls up it will be.

[ted_e_bear]

But they will only be trials of a particular section of these large offices not every duty surely?

This is one of those questions that really needs answers.

They’re saying rurals ,business and hct duties will still be 5 days a week ( not including Saturdays ) but what actually constitutes a rural ? There’s some business deliveries that have residential and some hct’s could be park and loop.

There no real parameters that I can find on any of that.

As soon as this hits an office of that size , we’ll really see how much of a balls up it will be.

Same at our place, we've got hct duties that could be shared van, rural duties that start on estates but then progress to countryside so they're not completely rural, no one seems to know