CWU : pivotal day in negotiations-We will update you fully within the next 24 hours.

[aiden01]

I totally except members frustration with the deadline for an update missed again, and they should have put one out no matter what it said ,but we must totally understand now that while for us this is about pay and terms and conditions, for RM this is totally about undermining the union and the uso under any circumstances, in our office hundreds of parcels are failing and loops failed by huge amounts, we on here are trying to see sense where there is none coming from RM , our union is being asked to sign up to things no union should even consider ,remember these things when criticising the union, absolutely nothing going on at the moment and that's for a reason!!!

If union is being asked to sign up to things no union should even consider wtf are they still ( talking) after nearly a year. an your info that nothing is going on at the moment is coming from who an what is the reason are you clued up. or just like the rest of us guessing??

Just seen you have 8 posts in six years obviously clued up then?????

[garywales53]

I totally except members frustration with the deadline for an update missed again, and they should have put one out no matter what it said ,but we must totally understand now that while for us this is about pay and terms and conditions, for RM this is totally about undermining the union and the uso under any circumstances, in our office hundreds of parcels are failing and loops failed by huge amounts, we on here are trying to see sense where there is none coming from RM , our union is being asked to sign up to things no union should even consider ,remember these things when criticising the union, absolutely nothing going on at the moment and that's for a reason!!!

If union is being asked to sign up to things no union should even consider wtf are they still ( talking) after nearly a year. an your info that nothing is going on at the moment is coming from who an what is the reason are you clued up. or just like the rest of us guessing??

Just seen you have 8 posts in six years obviously clued up then?????

What does 8 posts have to do with my point ,what I'm saying is that in my 35 years with this company I've never seen the union aka all us members treated with the utter disdain by the very organisation that employs us ,the union itself has never had to sustain this kind of treatment from management, they are doing there absolute best in this situation one we've never seen before ,believe me I hear everyday the treatment our members are going through but we're still better off with the union than without.

[Mr Rush]

i honestly believe they want us to leave the union so they can blame us for not sticking with the union

If you are a union member you are the union. The constant use of the phrase 'stick with the union' in these appeals to the membership to acquiesce creates the impression that the union is in fact some entity beyond us. Its a secular appeal to faith that's getting very grating.

If we get a bad deal it's because you offended Providence with the lack of prayer.

[aiden01]

I totally except members frustration with the deadline for an update missed again, and they should have put one out no matter what it said ,but we must totally understand now that while for us this is about pay and terms and conditions, for RM this is totally about undermining the union and the uso under any circumstances, in our office hundreds of parcels are failing and loops failed by huge amounts, we on here are trying to see sense where there is none coming from RM , our union is being asked to sign up to things no union should even consider ,remember these things when criticising the union, absolutely nothing going on at the moment and that's for a reason!!!

If union is being asked to sign up to things no union should even consider wtf are they still ( talking) after nearly a year. an your info that nothing is going on at the moment is coming from who an what is the reason are you clued up. or just like the rest of us guessing??

Just seen you have 8 posts in six years obviously clued up then?????

What does 8 posts have to do with my point ,what I'm saying is that in my 35 years with this company I've never seen the union aka all us members treated with the utter disdain by the very organisation that employs us ,the union itself has never had to sustain this kind of treatment from management, they are doing there absolute best in this situation one we've never seen before ,believe me I hear everyday the treatment our members are going through but we're still better off with the union than without.

Just asking if your clued up as with 8 posts recebtly alot of newcomers on here are being accused of being mangaers plants tats all. I agree worst attacks ever seen but union should update us when they say they will even if just to say talks will continue into next millenium cuz at this rate they will.

[Linden14]

I agree with the frustration is surprising everybody isn't off sick with stress.Id just like to say how strong we all are to hold it together,I just hope for our families partners pets that we get a deal we deserve or shame on either side

[aiden01]

I agree with the frustration is surprising everybody isn't off sick with stress.Id just like to say how strong we all are to hold it together,I just hope for our families partners pets that we get a deal we deserve or shame on either side

Good post mate its shame on both sides now we are being treated like s--t.

[Shadedpostie]

I agree with the frustration is surprising everybody isn't off sick with stress.Id just like to say how strong we all are to hold it together,I just hope for our families partners pets that we get a deal we deserve or shame on either side

Yeah I hope so for everyone else's sanity

[geordieboy123]

I totally except members frustration with the deadline for an update missed again, and they should have put one out no matter what it said ,but we must totally understand now that while for us this is about pay and terms and conditions, for RM this is totally about undermining the union and the uso under any circumstances, in our office hundreds of parcels are failing and loops failed by huge amounts, we on here are trying to see sense where there is none coming from RM , our union is being asked to sign up to things no union should even consider ,remember these things when criticising the union, absolutely nothing going on at the moment and that's for a reason!!!

If union is being asked to sign up to things no union should even consider wtf are they still ( talking) after nearly a year. an your info that nothing is going on at the moment is coming from who an what is the reason are you clued up. or just like the rest of us guessing??

Just seen you have 8 posts in six years obviously clued up then?????

What does 8 posts have to do with my point ,what I'm saying is that in my 35 years with this company I've never seen the union aka all us members treated with the utter disdain by the very organisation that employs us ,the union itself has never had to sustain this kind of treatment from management, they are doing there absolute best in this situation one we've never seen before ,believe me I hear everyday the treatment our members are going through but we're still better off with the union than without.

Well said and very true

[guardianangel]

i honestly believe they want us to leave the union so they can blame us for not sticking with the union

If you are a union member you are the union. The constant use of the phrase 'stick with the union' in these appeals to the membership to acquiesce creates the impression that the union is in fact some entity beyond us. Its a secular appeal to faith that's getting very grating.

If we get a bad deal it's because you offended Providence with the lack of prayer.

Whatever that means,if we are the union a vote of no confidence is well and overly due.

[Post69]

so by 11am tomorrow we'll know if we are striking or voting on a deal.

Hopefully they got a better pay deal and limited later starts times to 30mins.

Just as a matter of interest, all these people kicking off about later start and finish times because of the school run. What did you used to do with your kids when we started working at 5am? End of the day, we work full time , longer daily hrs than kids are at school so you're gonna miss either taking them or picking them up. You can't do both as kids are only at school for say, 6 hrs.
Think some people are just not open to even entertain the idea of changing work times. You've got to look at the positives it could bring but I guess on this forum I'm preaching mainly to a deaf brainwashed congregation.

These are the people who have made a statement of “if the strikes continue we will put the company into administration” seriously how can you work with a group of people that come out with statements like that? all to break their workforce’s morale!

Tbh a lot of posties on here are saying that as well. They would rather see the company go into administration and “burn” rather than accept a deal.
And you ask how I work with these people? I just crack on with my job and ignore the noise.

Yeah I’ve thought the exact same thing when I see statements like “I’d rather the company burn that accept a deal” OMG i actually could be working with those individuals but then these are the types that no matter where they work they would have a problem with the life they have!
And what people forget is This is an unprecedented dispute that has been forced upon us not by the union but by this aggressive, unapproachable and narcissistic top management which sole purpose is to undermine and destroy a unionised workforce for reasons that we can only assume are financially self serving? So I can only imagine sitting in front of a group of individuals that you know want to destroy you and what you stand for must be f@#king almost unbearable never mind trying to get an acceptable agreement out of them? so if Dave ward says an update within the next 24hrs and it doesn’t go to that plan it’s not going to be because of some of the stupid and childish crap that’s coming from individuals who think they know better! It’s because they are negotiating with a load of lying narcissists that don’t want to deal with them and never have wanted to deal with the union they just want to destroy it and that definitely won’t be easy so let’s just give them as much slack as we can!

[datasaint]

so if Dave ward says an update within the next 24hrs and it doesn’t go to that plan it’s not going to be because of some of the stupid and childish crap that’s coming from individuals who think they know better! It’s because they are negotiating with a load of lying narcissists that don’t want to deal with them and never have wanted to deal with the union they just want to destroy it and that definitely won’t be easy so let’s just give them as much slack as we can!

Rubbish, this dispute has been ongoing for 12 months now, I think DW knows the types of people he is dealing with, and the unlikelihood of things moving in the CWU's favour.

So to come out and announce a key update in 24 hours and not follow up is ridiculous at this stage, it's only building people's hopes up that there's a resolution.

Why should we give slack for a false statement, when it would take mere seconds to type something on the FB to correct it, it just smacks of arrogance or ineptitude.

[Post69]

so if Dave ward says an update within the next 24hrs and it doesn’t go to that plan it’s not going to be because of some of the stupid and childish crap that’s coming from individuals who think they know better! It’s because they are negotiating with a load of lying narcissists that don’t want to deal with them and never have wanted to deal with the union they just want to destroy it and that definitely won’t be easy so let’s just give them as much slack as we can!

Rubbish, this dispute has been ongoing for 12 months now, I think DW knows the types of people he is dealing with, and the unlikelihood of things moving in the CWU's favour.

So to come out and announce a key update in 24 hours and not follow up is ridiculous at this stage, it's only building people's hopes up that there's a resolution.


Why should we give slack for a false statement, when it would take mere seconds to type something on the FB to correct it, it just smacks of arrogance or ineptitude.

There you go……..never fail to disappoint! It’s true what they say about Royal Mail chat

[Simondavid]

I am glad we have Dave Ward on our side give the bloke a break having to deal with RM hierarchy I can only imagine with all their twisted schemes!!

[Post69]

I am glad we have Dave Ward on our side give the bloke a break having to deal with RM hierarchy I can only imagine with all their twisted schemes!!

Exactly! Imagine having to deal with a group of individuals that’s only intention is to deceive and destroy what you are trying to save! And Thompson and his cronies must be laughing at all the moaning and crying when they look at this forum! Boohoo Dave ward isn’t updating us……so what! When there’s reason to update he will!

[smartin1982]

Where’s the f***ing update

Won’t be til after 1630 so they can get their and their buddies shares in order.

Cough cough