From Southend Pilot - CWU Live - Posties Speak Out on the USO, Kretinsky, and Pay

[bowie]

Change will happen in the job,it always does,at the end of the day go to work do your best and come home,I leave work in the frame on heavy days I still get payed at the end of the week,cwu doing a good job keep up the good work

[norris9]

A cut in overtime was discussed, the cwu will look into it. Therefore it’s failing, just as most thought it would. Just tracked matters, as per…

The trials haven't started in their office yet. 2nd June I think they said it starts.

[norris9]

They spoke about job and finish in the video...

No - posties should not be going home early and nobody should think that's ok.

It would only be fair if it was job and finish where on light days you go home early and on heavy days you stay out, but the workload needs to be manageable with limits on what we take ie. a 50 parcel limit on Tracked, a limit of 4 door2doors per house per week. IMO this is the only way it can work. Parcel drivers take the excess Tracked.

This setup resolves 2 major issues; Toxic culture + Workload.

Toxic culture gone - no need to speak to management about workload.
USO met as every job has to be completed.

I'll bang on about this until the cows come home.

[A2B]

I'll bang on about this until the cows come home.

The only time job and finish will come back is when/if they franchise the walks

[SkiSunday]

Change will happen in the job,it always does,at the end of the day go to work do your best and come home,I leave work in the frame on heavy days I still get payed at the end of the week,cwu doing a good job keep up the good work

Name one thing the CWU have done that deserves the accolade of "doing a good job" they are a f***ing clown show and have thrown their members under the bus

[tramssirhc]

They spoke about job and finish in the video...

No - posties should not be going home early and nobody should think that's ok.

It would only be fair if it was job and finish where on light days you go home early and on heavy days you stay out, but the workload needs to be manageable with limits on what we take ie. a 50 parcel limit on Tracked, a limit of 4 door2doors per house per week. IMO this is the only way it can work. Parcel drivers take the excess Tracked.

This setup resolves 2 major issues; Toxic culture + Workload.

Toxic culture gone - no need to speak to management about workload.
USO met as every job has to be completed.

I'll bang on about this until the cows come home.

It's important to remember that job and finish was the agreement reached when the CWU sold the second delivery - crozier agreed we could go when we were done. We paid for that agreement with jobs. There's been no agreement over working to time and we certainly haven't been recompensed for it. However it is what it is. Start time, finish time. End of.

[tramssirhc]

Change will happen in the job,it always does,at the end of the day go to work do your best and come home,I leave work in the frame on heavy days I still get payed at the end of the week,cwu doing a good job keep up the good work

Name one thing the CWU have done that deserves the accolade of "doing a good job" they are a f***ing clown show and have thrown their members under the bus

Since 2010, nothing. Can't name one thing,

[Sean06]

Change will happen in the job,it always does,at the end of the day go to work do your best and come home,I leave work in the frame on heavy days I still get payed at the end of the week,cwu doing a good job keep up the good work

Name one thing the CWU have done that deserves the accolade of "doing a good job" they are a f***ing clown show and have thrown their members under the bus

Is it not the members who vote these agreememts in??

[qwerty2]

Change will happen in the job,it always does,at the end of the day go to work do your best and come home,I leave work in the frame on heavy days I still get payed at the end of the week,cwu doing a good job keep up the good work

Name one thing the CWU have done that deserves the accolade of "doing a good job" they are a f***ing clown show and have thrown their members under the bus

Is it not the members who vote these agreememts in??

Half don’t vote for anything

[heraldmoth]

They spoke about job and finish in the video...

No - posties should not be going home early and nobody should think that's ok.

It would only be fair if it was job and finish where on light days you go home early and on heavy days you stay out, but the workload needs to be manageable with limits on what we take ie. a 50 parcel limit on Tracked, a limit of 4 door2doors per house per week. IMO this is the only way it can work. Parcel drivers take the excess Tracked.

This setup resolves 2 major issues; Toxic culture + Workload.

Toxic culture gone - no need to speak to management about workload.
USO met as every job has to be completed.

I'll bang on about this until the cows come home.

“A 50 parcel limit and management not able to question workload”? Have you lost your mind, sound like a typical ring fenced rural with half an eye on retirement. I can’t imagine any other work place that would listen to that bollox….youre the reason the rest of us are shafted

[SkiSunday]

Change will happen in the job,it always does,at the end of the day go to work do your best and come home,I leave work in the frame on heavy days I still get payed at the end of the week,cwu doing a good job keep up the good work

Name one thing the CWU have done that deserves the accolade of "doing a good job" they are a f***ing clown show and have thrown their members under the bus

Is it not the members who vote these agreememts in??

Name just one thing though? Northing to do with agreememts

[Perseus]

They spoke about job and finish in the video...

No - posties should not be going home early and nobody should think that's ok.

It would only be fair if it was job and finish where on light days you go home early and on heavy days you stay out, but the workload needs to be manageable with limits on what we take ie. a 50 parcel limit on Tracked, a limit of 4 door2doors per house per week. IMO this is the only way it can work. Parcel drivers take the excess Tracked.

This setup resolves 2 major issues; Toxic culture + Workload.

Toxic culture gone - no need to speak to management about workload.
USO met as every job has to be completed.

I'll bang on about this until the cows come home.

Genuine question, have you ever done a shared van duty with 200 tracked?

[yellowbelly]

They spoke about job and finish in the video...

No - posties should not be going home early and nobody should think that's ok.

It would only be fair if it was job and finish where on light days you go home early and on heavy days you stay out, but the workload needs to be manageable with limits on what we take ie. a 50 parcel limit on Tracked, a limit of 4 door2doors per house per week. IMO this is the only way it can work. Parcel drivers take the excess Tracked.

This setup resolves 2 major issues; Toxic culture + Workload.

Toxic culture gone - no need to speak to management about workload.
USO met as every job has to be completed.

I'll bang on about this until the cows come home.

'Nobody should be going home.....' but '.....on light day you go home early and heavy days you stay out...'

So - which is it? So if you go home 20 minutes early on a light Tuesday but on a heavy Wednesday you've got to stay out to do an hour? Is that what you're saying?

Anyway there won't be any 'light days' soon - it'll all be 'heavy days'.

[SkiSunday]

They spoke about job and finish in the video...

No - posties should not be going home early and nobody should think that's ok.

It would only be fair if it was job and finish where on light days you go home early and on heavy days you stay out, but the workload needs to be manageable with limits on what we take ie. a 50 parcel limit on Tracked, a limit of 4 door2doors per house per week. IMO this is the only way it can work. Parcel drivers take the excess Tracked.

This setup resolves 2 major issues; Toxic culture + Workload.

Toxic culture gone - no need to speak to management about workload.
USO met as every job has to be completed.

I'll bang on about this until the cows come home.

'Nobody should be going home.....' but '.....on light day you go home early and heavy days you stay out...'

So - which is it? So if you go home 20 minutes early on a light Tuesday but on a heavy Wednesday you've got to stay out to do an hour? Is that what you're saying?

Anyway there won't be any 'light days' soon - it'll all be 'heavy days'.

How much of your walk do you leave in every day yellowbelly? How do you manage the non delivered letters over 4/5/6 days and beyond? Do you rotate, deliver daily packets mail, do exactly as your COM commands, make it up as you go along?

[HarrySutton111]

Change will happen in the job,it always does,at the end of the day go to work do your best and come home,I leave work in the frame on heavy days I still get payed at the end of the week,cwu doing a good job keep up the good work

Name one thing the CWU have done that deserves the accolade of "doing a good job" they are a f***ing clown show and have thrown their members under the bus

Is it not the members who vote these agreememts in??

Yep when the cwu chuck a £1000 folks way,