The odds were always against us

[hans solo]

Can't wait until Labour win the next election, so the dimwits will finally realise that there is zero difference between the two Parties.
Manifestos will be ignored as usual.
We live in a one Party state.

If Scotland gained independence the whole rotten political system in uk would collapse
Might not even take Scottish indi
N Ireland might get there first

[milly]

Can't wait until Labour win the next election, so the dimwits will finally realise that there is zero difference between the two Parties.
Manifestos will be ignored as usual.
We live in a one Party state.

We definitely agree on that. However, a Corbyn government would have been vastly different to either of the two main parties currently.

In hindsight Corbyn would have been far better, and incredibly more fiscally responsible.

[denhamhoop]

Can't wait until Labour win the next election, so the dimwits will finally realise that there is zero difference between the two Parties.
Manifestos will be ignored as usual.
We live in a one Party state.

We definitely agree on that. However, a Corbyn government would have been vastly different to either of the two main parties currently.

In hindsight Corbyn would have been far better, and incredibly more fiscally responsible.

Not if Diane Abbott was in the Treasury

[LouBarlow]

Can't wait until Labour win the next election, so the dimwits will finally realise that there is zero difference between the two Parties.
Manifestos will be ignored as usual.
We live in a one Party state.

We definitely agree on that. However, a Corbyn government would have been vastly different to either of the two main parties currently.

In hindsight Corbyn would have been far better, and incredibly more fiscally responsible.

Not if Diane Abbott was in the Treasury

Why?

[guardianangel]

The Tories have made sure shareholder profit is never challenged. That is the bottom line. We all knew this was coming since privatisation. They've given us a grace period until the dpr network is up and running and they will restart where they left off.
Could the CWU have done things differently?
Yes... In hindsight yes, but ultimately we are swimming against the tide.
Show me any privatised industry that had its T&C protected after privatisation.
Show me any privatised industry that has had better renumeration after privatisation.
Only essential industries have had decent pay deals but that will now change due to the minimum service requirements.
YOU NEED POLITICAL POWER TO STAND A CHANCE
Blame the 14 million people who voted Tory at the last election. There are a lot of people on this site that voted against their own financial interest in 2017 and 2019.
If Labour had won we would have had a re-nationalised RM and been in a much better position. But yeah, at least we got hard Brexit done .
The CWU did their best given the circumstances. Did you really expect them burn the house down.
We collectively lost on the political arena and there is no denying it.
Get over it. The Tories are at you ( especially if you voted for them ).
The ones that cheese me off the most are those who moan and moan about the CWU from afar but never put themselves forward for the many positions that are vacant. The union is what you make it.
Now we will get Starmer who is a New Labour/Tory lite. We ain't getting any help from him.
If you want things to change then it will have to be from bottom up. We had one chance of fighting back against Thatcherism but the establishment have ensured that will never happen again. I didn't agree with a lot of what Corbyn said but for workers it was definitely a step in the right direction. You reap what you sow.
We're reaping the rewards of Thatcherism. Enjoy it if you know how to play the game. We all knew this day was going to come. We're lucky the CWU put up a good fight for 10 years.

Who cares its all over now we lost,and i wouldn't say it was a good fight they just wore us down like a pack of hyena's and we let them.

[Tman]

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We definitely agree on that. However, a Corbyn government would have been vastly different to either of the two main parties currently.

Dead right, but not in any way that would be recognisable as good.
We've had too many f*ckwits in charge to have some other even more demented dribbling fiscally-inept f*ckwit like Corbyn in the chair.
Abbott as Home Secretary, MacDonnell as Chancellor....beyond irony.

[LouBarlow]

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We definitely agree on that. However, a Corbyn government would have been vastly different to either of the two main parties currently.

Dead right, but not in any way that would be recognisable as good.
We've had too many f*ckwits in charge to have some other even more demented dribbling fiscally-inept f*ckwit like Corbyn in the chair.
Abbott as Home Secretary, MacDonnell as Chancellor....beyond irony.

What have you got against them in particular?

[thefox]

Is diane abbott the one who went campaigning wearing odd shoes

[Acca Dacca]

[

We definitely agree on that. However, a Corbyn government would have been vastly different to either of the two main parties currently.

Dead right, but not in any way that would be recognisable as good.
We've had too many f*ckwits in charge to have some other even more demented dribbling fiscally-inept f*ckwit like Corbyn in the chair.
Abbott as Home Secretary, MacDonnell as Chancellor....beyond irony.

What have you got against them in particular?

They arent conservatives

You'll not be surprised what the T in Tman stands for.

[LouBarlow]

[

We definitely agree on that. However, a Corbyn government would have been vastly different to either of the two main parties currently.

Dead right, but not in any way that would be recognisable as good.
We've had too many f*ckwits in charge to have some other even more demented dribbling fiscally-inept f*ckwit like Corbyn in the chair.
Abbott as Home Secretary, MacDonnell as Chancellor....beyond irony.

What have you got against them in particular?

They arent conservatives

You'll not be surprised what the T in Tman stands for.

Oh I assumed it wasn’t politics related. Imagine being a postie and a tory fan.

[Tman]

That old cliche "if you don't like Corbyn etc you're a Tory" is worn out now.
Almost as bad as the one on here "if you disagree with me therefore you must be a manger(sic)".
Old and tired.

[steve2zaf]

Can't wait until Labour win the next election, so the dimwits will finally realise that there is zero difference between the two Parties.
Manifestos will be ignored as usual.
We live in a one Party state.

We definitely agree on that. However, a Corbyn government would have been vastly different to either of the two main parties currently.

In hindsight Corbyn would have been far better, and incredibly more fiscally responsible.

Listening to you pair I can see why the vote was "yes" . Not a braincell between you. Corbyn fiscally responsible - WHAT ??? His spending plans would have made covid look like pocket change . Take an IQ test , because there is certainly something lacking upstairs.

[steve2zaf]

Can't wait until Labour win the next election, so the dimwits will finally realise that there is zero difference between the two Parties.
Manifestos will be ignored as usual.
We live in a one Party state.

We definitely agree on that. However, a Corbyn government would have been vastly different to either of the two main parties currently.

In hindsight Corbyn would have been far better, and incredibly more fiscally responsible.

Listening to you pair I can see why the vote was "yes" . Not a braincell between you. Corbyn fiscally responsible - WHAT ??? His spending plans would have made covid look like pocket change . Take an IQ test , because there is certainly something lacking upstairs.

[milly]

Can't wait until Labour win the next election, so the dimwits will finally realise that there is zero difference between the two Parties.
Manifestos will be ignored as usual.
We live in a one Party state.

We definitely agree on that. However, a Corbyn government would have been vastly different to either of the two main parties currently.

In hindsight Corbyn would have been far better, and incredibly more fiscally responsible.

Listening to you pair I can see why the vote was "yes" . Not a braincell between you. Corbyn fiscally responsible - WHAT ??? His spending plans would have made covid look like pocket change . Take an IQ test , because there is certainly something lacking upstairs.

Corbyn would have ruined the Country but he couldn't hold a candle to this Government who have taken wasting money to another level.
I also very much doubt Corbyn would have let Big Pharma test their products on the UK public, and give them immunity from any legal action.
Corbyn would have been terrible but its difficult to imagine he could have been worse than this lot.

[LouBarlow]

Can't wait until Labour win the next election, so the dimwits will finally realise that there is zero difference between the two Parties.
Manifestos will be ignored as usual.
We live in a one Party state.

We definitely agree on that. However, a Corbyn government would have been vastly different to either of the two main parties currently.

In hindsight Corbyn would have been far better, and incredibly more fiscally responsible.

Listening to you pair I can see why the vote was "yes" . Not a braincell between you. Corbyn fiscally responsible - WHAT ??? His spending plans would have made covid look like pocket change . Take an IQ test , because there is certainly something lacking upstairs.

I don’t know. I don’t think either of us would be dumb enough to quote our own posts. I might be wrong.