Leaving already?

[1560loopsayear]

I mean I've never known a job more difficult in the first 3-6 months than being a postie... its a shock to the system... but to pitch in the fact that they are now on inferior T&C's aswell.... think I might have might have gone looking for greener grass too if I was to start new from now.

Ps the agency recruits are going to be sky high this Xmas.

[Flashman_]

14 people offered jobs in our office,only 1 person accepted offer
1 agency worker was offered a full time position and was told terms and conditions,turned it down as it was better money and hours on agency

Told by senior CWU member today that agency staff are on £24 per hour.
The ones in our office all have brand new cars, one had a Tesla. There is no way our s**t pay and conditions could maintain that kind of lifestyle.

[Kenfandango]

14 people offered jobs in our office,only 1 person accepted offer
1 agency worker was offered a full time position and was told terms and conditions,turned it down as it was better money and hours on agency

Told by senior CWU member today that agency staff are on £24 per hour.
The ones in our office all have brand new cars, one had a Tesla. There is no way our s**t pay and conditions could maintain that kind of lifestyle.

I got told I was lying when I mentioned how much agency get on here a few weeks back, some of ours are on £15, some £18 and some seem to be on more... They're called in to sit about waiting for vans to return, whilst being paid, then given under 50 packets each. 2 of them come back with half their stuff marked as inaccessible, then sit in the canteen until a manager notices them and signs their hours off.
And loads of them refuse to do weekends now... Managers moan about it and threaten to not call them back but they always do

[LouBarlow]

14 people offered jobs in our office,only 1 person accepted offer
1 agency worker was offered a full time position and was told terms and conditions,turned it down as it was better money and hours on agency

Told by senior CWU member today that agency staff are on £24 per hour.
The ones in our office all have brand new cars, one had a Tesla. There is no way our s**t pay and conditions could maintain that kind of lifestyle.

I got told I was lying when I mentioned how much agency get on here a few weeks back, some of ours are on £15, some £18 and some seem to be on more... They're called in to sit about waiting for vans to return, whilst being paid, then given under 50 packets each. 2 of them come back with half their stuff marked as inaccessible, then sit in the canteen until a manager notices them and signs their hours off.
And loads of them refuse to do weekends now... Managers moan about it and threaten to not call them back but they always do

They don’t make that much at all. Royal Mail might well be paying their agency that for them, but the actual workers aren’t seeing anywhere near that amount.

[Linden14]

3 more staff leaving our place soon,feels depressing now

[2yearpostie]

And we're 20% over paid. How can that be if staff aren't staying? Weird. Surely if people are leaving then we are under paid. Its a mystery to me.

This salary equates to a bank offering you a mortgage of £120,000.... it might work out for you in the back end of Glasgow.... but try buying a property with that money in the South East....

20% overpaid....ok Thompson!

More like we should be getting £30 an hour these days. Minimum wage should be £25 an hour based on the cost of renting and buying property.

Have a day off, go and see how much Private soliders, police cadates and care workers and nurses are on. No way should we be on £30 an hour for popping paper through a door and playing hide the parcels.

[LouBarlow]

And we're 20% over paid. How can that be if staff aren't staying? Weird. Surely if people are leaving then we are under paid. Its a mystery to me.

This salary equates to a bank offering you a mortgage of £120,000.... it might work out for you in the back end of Glasgow.... but try buying a property with that money in the South East....

20% overpaid....ok Thompson!

More like we should be getting £30 an hour these days. Minimum wage should be £25 an hour based on the cost of renting and buying property.

Have a day off, go and see how much Private soliders, police cadates and care workers and nurses are on. No way should we be on £30 an hour for popping paper through a door and playing hide the parcels.

There shouldn’t be any profession that doesn’t provide enough of a wage for people to cover the bare essentials of living though. The fact that you have working couples unable to afford housing is a national scandal.

[Ad_bee]

20 new starters, 3 remain

To be fair, a 75% acceptable failure-rate seems to be RM's target KPI for lot of things.

[TopperGas]

And we're 20% over paid. How can that be if staff aren't staying? Weird. Surely if people are leaving then we are under paid. Its a mystery to me.

This salary equates to a bank offering you a mortgage of £120,000.... it might work out for you in the back end of Glasgow.... but try buying a property with that money in the South East....

20% overpaid....ok Thompson!

More like we should be getting £30 an hour these days. Minimum wage should be £25 an hour based on the cost of renting and buying property.

Have a day off, go and see how much Private soliders, police cadates and care workers and nurses are on. No way should we be on £30 an hour for popping paper through a door and playing hide the parcels.

What do solders do when there's no wars, just play solders all day, how can that be hard? Likewise a high % of police cadets times must be spent waiting for crimes to occur, one of our postie as just returned being a care worker as he finds it far easier and he's a competitive marathon runner! I can't think of one job where you regularly walk 20Km a day, sometimes pushing a trolley.

[DirtyHarry]

Must be terrible being a new starter in Royal Mail today.
I know if the job had been as bad a quarter of a century ago, as it is now, I would have run a mile from it.

[DirtyHarry]

And we're 20% over paid. How can that be if staff aren't staying? Weird. Surely if people are leaving then we are under paid. Its a mystery to me.

This salary equates to a bank offering you a mortgage of £120,000.... it might work out for you in the back end of Glasgow.... but try buying a property with that money in the South East....

20% overpaid....ok Thompson!

More like we should be getting £30 an hour these days. Minimum wage should be £25 an hour based on the cost of renting and buying property.

Have a day off, go and see how much Private soliders, police cadates and care workers and nurses are on. No way should we be on £30 an hour for popping paper through a door and playing hide the parcels.

If it wasn't for posts like this one, I would forever be wondering why it is, that our country, never mind our job, is going right down the shitter at a rate of knots.

[fb1969]

Agency jobs in my area are all advertised at £13.39 an hour and you must do every Saturday. More than likely RM are paying the agencies over £20 an hour, and they are not Angard.

[Foxel]

I can confirm that agency staff are currently on at least £13 (upwards depending on area, demand? and the role of a dice), their wages went up to match the extras RM staff get. (Yes you'd think that would mean they get paid less.)

On agency you do have more flexibility, you can take days off here and there by just changing your availability on the app. They will not moan at you for it as they are desperate for you to work and getting someone else in is as hard as is mentioned already on here about new starters.

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Comparing your wages to other jobs is ridiculous when the general consensus is that the other jobs are underpaid as well. To moan that you cannot expect to be paid as much as nurses currently do when they are greatly underpaid is illogical.

[moles40]

Agency on 16 quid an hour at mail centre average about 4 hours a night

[LouBarlow]

Agency on 16 quid an hour at mail centre average about 4 hours a night

Do they get the same allowances you do in regard a pension, annual leave etc?